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I_Alcyone_I 05-09-2002 01:05 AM

sort of O/T
 
this was quoted from another automotive forum:

Lamborghini Portofino
The year was 1988. The Viper hadn't been shown yet. There was no Intrepid. And LH wasn't even recognized as "Last Hope" yet. In fact, the most exotic offering Chrysler had was Lamborghini that Lee Iacocca stood proudly beside when "he liked the car so much, he bought the company". What a leader!

What's the Story?

The Portofino featured trademark Lamborghini gull-wing doors (the rears opened in suicide fashion) and a new 3.5L 225 hp 24v V6 engine powering all four wheels. The tires were 225/50-16 (wide at that time...).

Although the concept never became a Lamborghini production vehicle, it clearly influenced future Chrysler styling. The Chrysler Design Studio concept clearly foreshadowed the cab-forward theme for the 1993 LH cars, especially the Intrepid.

But other features of this car also came to to reach more humble production models.



Sharp eyes will look at the headlights and instantly recognize them ... as foglights that were later used on the 1989 Daytona Shelby or Spirit ES. I'm sure some of you may think it's odd for me to look for things like this ... but surely there's someone out there who cares...



And what about that interior design? Doesn't it look similar to the redesigned interior on the 1990 Daytona & LeBaron? Notice especially the instrument pod, which housed the light switches, wipers, fog lamps and - yes - even the turn signal indicator, just like the Daytona & LeBaron.

As for the window-within-a-window treatment? Only the Subaru SVX decided to put that into a regular production car ... unsuccessfully.

There is a great story surrounding this car. While being transported, the semi-truck hauling the million-dollar concept vehicle was involved in an accident and the Portofino was "written-off". But it was put back together piece by piece until it was in "better condition" than before the accident.

Where is the Portofino Now?



The Portofino's new home is parked upstairs at the Walter P. Chrysler Museum in Auburn Hills, Michigan.
http://www.pinnaclecda.com/DaimlerCh...0Portofino.htm
Pics here


notice in the middle where they mention the "unsuccessful" SVX. If you look at the link its disgusting to think they even tried to relate the svx to it.

svx_commuter 05-09-2002 05:10 AM

My son says has friends make fun of the SVX window in a window. It seems a lot of people do not like this idea at all. My son says he doesn't like the windows because the air doesn't come in and keep you cool. The reason they made the windows!!!

Mr. Pockets 05-09-2002 08:21 AM

"As for the window-within-a-window treatment? Only the Subaru SVX decided to put that into a regular production car ... unsuccessfully."

Well, the writer probably means that the SVX was unsuccessful. In that it didn't make Subaru any money, sure. But the sentence says that the windows were implemented unsuccessfully, and that's just not accurate. Why are the windows the way they are o nthe SVX?

1. Larger windows for better visibility. Success.

2. Upper glass can the be curved to blend with the roof better. Mission accomplished.

3. Passengers dont get wet with windows open in the rain. Sure, check, even though I think that this had to be made up by an SOA marketing guy.

How is this unsuccesful?

phoenix96 05-09-2002 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr. Pockets
"As for the window-within-a-window treatment? Only the Subaru SVX decided to put that into a regular production car ... unsuccessfully."

Well, the writer probably means that the SVX was unsuccessful. In that it didn't make Subaru any money, sure. But the sentence says that the windows were implemented unsuccessfully, and that's just not accurate. Why are the windows the way they are o nthe SVX?

1. Larger windows for better visibility. Success.

2. Upper glass can the be curved to blend with the roof better. Mission accomplished.

3. Passengers dont get wet with windows open in the rain. Sure, check, even though I think that this had to be made up by an SOA marketing guy.

How is this unsuccesful?

4. Less air turbulence. I actually enjoy driving with the windows down in the SVX. Not so in my other cars.

Aredubjay 05-09-2002 11:51 AM

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Originally posted by phoenix96


4. Less air turbulence. I actually enjoy driving with the windows down in the SVX. Not so in my other cars.

Yes. Me too. I kinda hate it when I drive the wife's mini van to family functions. If I have the window down, on the driver's side, I wind up looking like I've been to Patti Labelle's hairdresser. Well, with the hair I have left, anyway. :D

wasions 05-09-2002 12:11 PM

When I read that I was thinking . . .
 
. . . that the windows are the most successful feature on the car. Well, that's not quite true. For me, the whole car is just a really successful package.

I just took a short trip to a nearby town. The weather is mid-60's. A little too warm to have the windows up. In any other car, I would have opened the rear windows and turned up the heater to some unknown level that I would have to play with for an hour to get right, and still put up with the buffetting/resonating. In some cars, doing that is like sitting inside a sub-woofer. Since I was driving the SVX, I just opened the front windows and set the thermostat on 73. Gee, it just blew the heck out of my left sleeve. :D Comfort level - perfection !

:cool: I don't deserve this car! :cool:

Aredubjay 05-09-2002 12:26 PM

Re: When I read that I was thinking . . .
 
Quote:

Originally posted by wasions
:cool: I don't deserve this car! :cool:
None of us do, Steve. None of us do. It's an excellent illustration of that "Grace" that some of us are so familiar with. :D

Mr. Pockets 05-09-2002 01:02 PM

Re: Re: When I read that I was thinking . . .
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Aredubjay


None of us do, Steve. None of us do.

I do.

Aredubjay 05-09-2002 01:07 PM

Re: Re: Re: When I read that I was thinking . . .
 
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Originally posted by Mr. Pockets


I do.

Those who store them away in the garage deserve them least of all. ;) :D

wasions 05-09-2002 01:10 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: When I read that I was thinking . . .
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Aredubjay


Those who store them away in the garage deserve them least of all. ;) :D


Touche.

(I wish I knew how to make those little marks.)

WestCoastSVX 05-09-2002 01:28 PM

Guess I'm off topic here already, if someone doesn't post in the first 30 minutes then the topic has already gone off to something other than the original post!!! :D :D :D

But I remember seeing that concept car in a auto mag a while back (didn't realize it was THAT long ago!!!). Looking at it now it is pretty ugly, but the pic I saw had all four doors up and a straight on side view and it looked pretty cool. I'm not sure they are called gull-wing doors properly, they are the style the Diablos have that just swing straight up and forward rather than up and out. But like the article says, the rear doors swung up and back, suicide door fashion. And there was no center pillar! So it was just this huge opening in the middle to access front and back seats with doors up on the front and back like a big Swiss Army knife!!! :D :D Wish they had included a pic of it on this link.


Now back to the defense of window in a window and/or who is worthy of the SVX! :rolleyes:

Mr. Pockets 05-09-2002 01:55 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: When I read that I was thinking . . .
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Aredubjay


Those who store them away in the garage deserve them least of all. ;) :D

I don't have a choice - right now I can't afford the batteries the car woud require to drive over any distance. :D

I would have my alternator by now, but Tacoma Subaru never returns my calls or my emails. Next week I plan on ordering my rotors, alternator, plugs and timing belt - if they don't return my calls I will have no choice but to pay Ann Arbor Subaru's significantly higher prices.

Uncamitzi 05-09-2002 03:40 PM

oooh ooooh These guys are so much better......
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mr. Pockets


I don't have a choice - right now I can't afford the batteries the car woud require to drive over any distance. :D

I would have my alternator by now, but Tacoma Subaru never returns my calls or my emails. Next week I plan on ordering my rotors, alternator, plugs and timing belt - if they don't return my calls I will have no choice but to pay Ann Arbor Subaru's significantly higher prices.

Tacoma Subaru called me about an order that I made almost 4 months ago. When I tried to call them back I got hung up on, put on hold for over an hour then hung up on. I emailed them no answer....... I gave up..... try these guys..... they were really quick with my rear lateral links and the price was much lower.

http://www.1stsubaruparts.com/

Aredubjay 05-09-2002 03:54 PM

Gee, I hate to hear all this stuff about subaruparts.com, after I've built them up. But, then, that was when Scott was handling things.

I believe that 1stsubaruparts may be Scott's new venture. Perhaps I'll be shifting my business if subaruparts can't get their feces together.

nubs 05-09-2002 05:56 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: When I read that I was thinking . . .
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Aredubjay


Those who store them away in the garage deserve them least of all. ;) :D

Hey, somebody has to preserve the breed.:D


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