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petesvx2 01-11-2003 11:18 PM

OT: Computer Question
 
everytime i close a window, a prompt pops up and says: "Stop Statement Encountered". it has never done this before, anyone think i have a virus or something?

Seraph 01-11-2003 11:21 PM

I have to see it. Did you install anything recently? Worst case, just format. I just did that to mine yesterday.

L

petesvx2 01-11-2003 11:30 PM

nope didnt install anything...should i just do the format thing to clean up my hard drive?

Seraph 01-11-2003 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by petesvx2
nope didnt install anything...should i just do the format thing to clean up my hard drive?
When did you format your hard drive?

CigarJohnny 01-12-2003 07:33 AM

Before I'd format the drive and lose everything I would first try just reinstalling overtop of the current install. If something got deleted accidentally or mysteriously it might put it back in order. If it is something in the registry that got hosed then it won't help and you'd be better off formatting and reinstalling from scratch. It's worth a try though if it would save you from wiping, reloading, and reinstalling all your programs.

If you do end up reformatting and reinstalling everything, do yourself a favor if you have a big enough harddrive. Create a second partition to be used as a backup partition (a couple gigs would probably work well enough). Better yet would be an old smaller harddrive. Do the reinstall of the OS and all your critical programs (like MS Office) and fully patch and update it with current security fixes and drivers. Once you have it working properly use Norton Ghost (let me know if you need a copy, it's very small) and create a compressed image of the OS partition and store that image file on the second partition or spare harddrive. Once you do that you can continue installing the non-critical software at your leisure.

Should things go kablooey on you again it will only take you a few minutes to run Norton Ghost and have a fresh install of your PC in freshly installed and configured state with all your critical applications pre-installed. I don't know about you but when I wipe and reload my PC it takes me days to get it back to where I can use it again. This will make that whole process shrink to about 5 minutes work. It is the best thing I ever did for myself. ;) Good luck! :)

$VX 01-12-2003 09:33 AM

My mac is working fine. :D

- Ca$h

CigarJohnny 01-12-2003 10:09 AM

IMHO
 
Quote:

Originally posted by $VX
My mac is working fine. :D

- Ca$h

"My mac is working fine.", say's Johnny in a high, nasally, whining, mocking voice,"...:p"

So would any PC if Microsoft controlled and approved every piece of hardware and software written for it. God Bless every student and woman that bought an iMac because it was cute or Apple would have gone out of business a long time ago. Apple could be viewed as the very escence of American entrepeneurship or as the very example of a socialist dictatorship in how they manage and market their product. God Bless Bill Gates for his entrepeneurship and PC for it's very essence of Americanism and allowing anyone to get in on the act of creating a better piece of hardware and software. The hardware for PC's has greatly surpassed the Mac in technology, power, speed, and capability. Mac's no longer hold the technical advantage in the publishing world anymore and never did and never will for software in general.

Let the flame war begin!!! :D:D:D

petesvx2 01-12-2003 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Seraph


When did you format your hard drive?

sorry i meant d-frag, is that the same thing?

$VX 01-12-2003 11:07 AM

Re: IMHO
 
Quote:

Originally posted by CigarJohnny
"My mac is working fine.", say's Johnny in a high, nasally, whining, mocking voice,"...:p"

So would any PC if Microsoft controlled and approved every piece of hardware and software written for it. God Bless every student and woman that bought an iMac because it was cute or Apple would have gone out of business a long time ago. Apple could be viewed as the very escence of American entrepeneurship or as the very example of a socialist dictatorship in how they manage and market their product. God Bless Bill Gates for his entrepeneurship and PC for it's very essence of Americanism and allowing anyone to get in on the act of creating a better piece of hardware and software. The hardware for PC's has greatly surpassed the Mac in technology, power, speed, and capability. Mac's no longer hold the technical advantage in the publishing world anymore and never did and never will for software in general.

Let the flame war begin!!! :D:D:D

Yeah, macs cost more. Yeah. They're slower. Slower enough to notice? Nope. And they work awesome. So I think they're worth it. Plus you can do anything you can on a mac that you could do on a PC, only it'll probably be more stable. its a price issue.

SVX vs 11 second Neon

Is quality worth sacrificing for speed? I think not.

- Ca$h

CigarJohnny 01-12-2003 11:16 AM

Macs suck at emulating a PC especially when it comes to games. The frame rates are abysmal. Technically, yes, they can run PC software but not anywhere near as well. Can a PC run Mac software? No...but why would you want to when all can be had for the PC anyway? I just get a kick out of all the Mac folks who bust on Microsoft for being closed source on their products. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

Congrats for not getting all worked up, Rob! I thought for sure it would get the kinda reaction you used to about Mopar hemis vs. other hemis ;):D

CigarJohnny 01-12-2003 11:18 AM

Besides that, if I had a Mac I would be totally bored to death. Call me strange but I love tinkering with my PC and it's software. I might actually hate having a computer that gave me little to nothing to change out or mess with. :D

$VX 01-12-2003 11:43 AM

>shrug< Maybe you're just ignorant. The new macs get good framerates in most games, but like I said, in most cases anything on a mac is better than a PC. Music production? Mac. Photoshop and design? Mac. Anything creative whatsoever? Mac.

I play UT all the time on my iMac. Yep. iMac. And I like tinkering too. Lets see what I've done:

Custom graphics on the inside of my iMac's shell
Replaced motherboard with rev A motherboard so I could get the mezzanine slot
Installed the only video card upgrade I could (gamewizard voodoo2)
Installed Sonnet 600mhz Harmoni upgrade, 600mhz L2 cache
Installed firewire
120 gig 7200rpm hd
512 megs ram
and to top it off my iMac now lights up thanks to www.glowire.com.

So yeah, you can tinker with macs, its just not as EASY. However, if you're intelligent, you might be up to the challenge. PCs are like V8s. Easily made fast, lots and lots of parts, but aren't reliable, and don't idle smooth at all. Think of a Mac as an SVX engine: Smooth, sophisticated, and something you can rely on.

- Ca$h

$VX 01-12-2003 11:48 AM

Wait, PCs are good at being cheap and running spreadsheets.

:rolleyes:

- Ca$h

CigarJohnny 01-12-2003 12:31 PM

You are correct about the creativity apps, I will admit to that, but when it comes to games don't even go there. UT is a game that is 4 or 5 years old now. It is my all time favorite but running it is no feat of hardware prowess. When it comes to gaming and compiling power, nothing beats the sheer horsepower available in a PC. The new MS operating systems are extremely reliable and to compare a Mac to an SVX is an insult to the SVX. The SVX is a high horsepower GT with AWD. The Mac is more like a Toyota Camry. Extremely reliable and somewhat refined but is absolutely boring to drive and limited in any spirited use. Even the new Mac OS is not a Mac thing anymore. It's a prettied up version of the FreeBSD Linux OS.

Of course you can do some mods to a Mac but they are very limited. In that aspect it is like an SVX but it ends there.

Arguing Mac vs PC is like arguing Ford vs Chevy. To each his own. Peace, my brother. Long live the PC! :)

Seraph 01-12-2003 12:43 PM

How about the *nix? PCs sucks at running servers and in that aspect so are the Macs.

If you want good creative apps, look at the *nix. All the great video editing apps are on *nix systems.All the great engineering apps (yeah the ones you can't even afford) are on *nix.

People just know what they use.

How about BeOS? Another good multiuser interface.

L
I am done with mac/pc crap


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