Aarrgghhhhh
 

Why do people come on forums asking questions when they just get pissed if they don't like the answer they get?:angst:

Someone was asking about what amp for a set of subs on another forum, I replied with a lengthy post about why it's not his amp that's causing his problems, but most likely the subs themselves since they've got a very low sensitivity rating. And that a much better sub would net him the same gain as a 4500 watt amp (if the sub could theoretically handle that much power). I took a long time to do the math, figure out the info on the components and it got completely ignored because apparently audio is some magic force and not science.

I'm far from perfect and get my share of tunnel vision, but when it comes to sound, people seem to totally disregard the fact that it IS PHYSICS!!!! And as such you can calculate it. But as soon as you start throwing real math out there to explain yourself and prove what you're saying people just get pissed. It's like somehow the GED student at Best Buy saying this "bigass amp will make it sssoo much louder" can rewrite the laws of physics just because the box has a big number on it.

It's not like I work with this stuff for a living or anything... It's even more fun when you get the person who insists that "my buddies system got 2984753dB louder when he got this new amp, so you're just wrong. I heard it myself." "So much for your "science."" (someone really said that to me (well, the number was different but you get the point)).

Sorry about the rant. It just really irks me when I spend the time to do all the work for someone who seems to want help, type it all up, and post it for them along with a recommended solution it gets just ignored because I didn't tell them the same thing they were already thinking. Isn't that the point of asking a ****ing question??? To get an answer?

ARGH. Ok end of my rant.

Did he say exactly what he had and was planning to get?

If it make you feel any better, around here people crank up the gain after an install... and it sounds awesome!! instantly more pimp!
















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...and they ussually starin' you down with big :tard: glasses on and a bluetooth headset stuffed in their ear. :lol:

I resent this comment... People are stupid though. Used to work at Circuit City (I was a high school student at the time thank you very little) and it pissed me off when people knew nothing. "Uh, I'd like to buy this right here... it's only $800." "Sir, that computer is a piece of crap." "Well I want it anyway, it's good enough for me." Week later the come back and ***** because they can't play f***ing solitaire. Stingy bastards.

techy, what amps would you recommend for the 15" Kornwood sub i gots at the swap meet for $40?

Ah, you never learned the #1 rule of retail sales.
"The customer is always right" :rolleyes:
You always give them what they ask for. When they come back and complain, you just tell them its exactly what they wanted.
And I take no offense on the GED comment.
I have one.
I also have a Associates in electronics.
High School sucked :tard:

Hahaha!! I gave them huge receipts and smiles on their faces. Loved the job, couldn't handle the management (Seems to be a growing trend). Yay, +1 for GED students making something of themselves. Couldn't make myself go, needed 1 credit to graduate going into my last year. Oh well, still got a full ride to go to college. Majoring in computer science! :p

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Well, to use some of the audio knowledge in this thread:

I plan to do a serious upgrade to the stereo in my '95. I plan to use 2 10" Rockford Fosgate P3D410's (Punch Stage 3 10" subwoofer with dual 4-ohm voice coils) and a Q-Logic QB-210.4 Bandpass box.

Is that box gonna be quality enough for those subs? And what amp would be great for that?

Music will be Heavy Metal with hard hitting bass :) I don't want discusting lows.....

Another +1 for G.E.D. students! :D:cool:



Dustin

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get a sealed box for tighter, more responsive bass when playing teh metal. http://www.demons-eye.org/style_emot...e/headbang.gif

ported and bandpass boxes are louder and boomier for the same amount of power, but not as tight. throw it a decent amount of power.

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Crutchfield says otherwise though:
A Bandpass seemed the best of both worlds since it would have the low precise tone of a sealed box but still get very punchy through the port.

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bandpass is ok (i have one in my car)...... i'd rather have sealed, but i've had this thing in my last three cars, and it still works.

i don't know what kind of metal you listen to, but for machine-gun double bass drums, i'd go with sealed.



from ecoustics.com:
"sealed will yield a fairly flat response, and is the most accurate type of box.
a sealed box also requires the most power to attain the same SPL as other box types.

a ported box is usually about +3dB more efficient at the frequency of the tuned port(s). These boxes require less power than sealed to reach the same SPL, but below their tuned frequency, they are very hard to control, and require great amounts of power to produce those below-port frequencies. Ported enclosures also add coloration to the sound, which detracts from their accuracy.

bandpass boxes are +3 to +12dB more efficient, making these the loudest of the boxes, but they lack severely in sound quality and will not hit very deeply since they, as the name implies, are limited to a notch frequency range.. usually between about 50-100Hz. loud, not deep, and they can accept a lot of power due to the damping factor of the enclosure designs. Bandpass boxes are ideal for SPL competitions, but not recommended for anything desiring musicality such as a daily driver car."

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+1 Its been a while since I've played with any of this stuff but I used to love the accuracy of the sealed box with metal.

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Sealed box it is than!

Yeah, I love my hard hitting bass drums :)




Dustin

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Does anybody have any feed back on the Alpine IVA 205?