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trueblue 03-29-2016 02:52 AM

Saab??????
 
This is all news to me.

Saab 9-2X[edit]



Saab 9-2X Aero
Subaru manufactured a badge engineered version of the second generation Impreza hatchback as the "Saab 9-2X" between 2004 and 2005. Retailed only in the North American market for the 2005 and 2006 model years, the car earned the nickname "Saabaru".[16] The car's name is written as "92X" on its badge, but as "9-2X" in advertising and other texts. The car was designated to be a direct competitor with the Volvo V50, as that too was based on a Japanese car (the Mazda3).[17] At the time the 9-2X was conceived, Saab Automobile had been a fully owned subsidiary of General Motors (GM), and GM held a 20 percent stake of Subaru's parent company, Fuji Heavy Industries.


Saab 9-2X Linear or 2.5i
Although still produced in Japan by Subaru, Saab appointed Michael Mauer to commission the redesign of the front- and rear styling to better integrate the contrived Saab with the brand's own design language.[18] This totally restyled front fascia included new fenders and hood, with the rear gaining a redesigned tailgate and bumper. The interior received extra acoustic insulation over the Subaru, with particular attention paid to the firewall, carpeting, roof, and rear window seals. The main piece of the dash is unchanged from the Subaru versions, although the instrument cluster was redesigned. Saab also specified their own front seats incorporating active head restraints, unlike the fixed headrest seats in the equivalent Impreza WRX. The rear suspension arms are in aluminum, with further reduction of unsprung weight achieved by using plastic in place of heavier components, bushings unique to the Saab, and the dampers recalibrated. The steering had been made more responsive and exact in the Aero by using the steering rack shared by the STI version of the WRX, which features a faster 15.0:1 steering ratio, more rigidly mounted steering hardware and stiffer chassis bushings. The 9-2X is not particularly popular with Saab brand loyalists for the fact that the changes from the Subaru are mostly cosmetic.[19] The 9-2X also won the highest IIHS safety awards.[20]

Saab planned to offer the 9-2X to a limited public. Initial sales were slower than expected, with only 410 sold within the first two months; however, incentives and promotions helped drive sales in May 2005 alone to beat the combined sales of the year up until that point. In October 2005, however, GM decided that it would sell 8.4 percent of the company to Toyota and dispose of its remaining 11.4 percent share back to Fuji in a share buyback deal. The 9-2X was discontinued after the 2006 model year with the dissolution of the partnership between Fuji and GM.[21] 10,346 Saab 9-2Xs were manufactured during the entire production run. The production for the 2005 model year accounts for most of these (8,514 total, about 58 percent Linear; 42 percent Aero). The remaining 1,832 were produced for the 2006 model year (approximately 82 percent 2.5i; 18 percent Aero). The Aero model was not sold in Canada for 2006.

Blacky 03-29-2016 04:55 AM

Re: Saab??????
 
I knew most of that other than the actual numbers.

SVXBart 03-29-2016 08:26 PM

Re: Saab??????
 
Jim from Office had one.

92snowmachine 08-20-2016 12:02 PM

Re: Saab??????
 
Never buy a saab, ever. GM owned saab and had an interest in subaru so instructed saab to sell the rebadged subies but change nothing but the body. Saab disobeyed this directive so gm shut them down. Working on saabaroos is difficult because the changes aren't well documented and weird problems arise.

Blacky 08-20-2016 01:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 92snowmachine (Post 744603)
Never buy a saab, ever. GM owned saab and had an interest in subaru so instructed saab to sell the rebadged subies but change nothing but the body. Saab disobeyed this directive so gm shut them down. Working on saabaroos is difficult because the changes aren't well documented and weird problems arise.

Saab was shut down during the Great Government Bailouts as was Pontiac, Saturn and Isuzu. It had nothing to do with disobeying directives. There was a huge outcry from the quirky die hard Saab fans around the world.

92snowmachine 08-20-2016 03:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Blacky (Post 744609)
Saab was shut down during the Great Government Bailouts as was Pontiac, Saturn and Isuzu. It had nothing to do with disobeying directives. There was a huge outcry from the quirky die hard Saab fans around the world.

My only knowledge of the demise of saab comes from an engineer that worked for them.

wdb 08-22-2016 11:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Blacky (Post 744609)
Saab was shut down during the Great Government Bailouts as was Pontiac, Saturn and Isuzu. It had nothing to do with disobeying directives. There was a huge outcry from the quirky die hard Saab fans around the world.

Saab was sold to Spyker, not shut down. Spyker went belly up shortly thereafter, and tried to sue GM for $3B a bit later. That didn't work either.

Saab unfortunately failed to keep up with technical progress in automobile design and manufacturing since the 1990s. No doubt part of the reason was their small size. Getting swallowed up by larger entities happened to a lot of companies, witness Jaguar, Rover, Rolls Royce, Bentley, Ferrari, Lamborghini.

I loved my old Saab 95 wagon with its lever shocks, German V4 and freewheel between the engine and gearbox. They were innovative cars, for a while.

Conn SVX 08-23-2016 02:09 PM

Re: Saab??????
 
And don't forget the Sbbaru that came out !


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