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socal1200r 03-18-2017 01:49 PM

Direct bolt-on calipers
 
I've searched thru a bunch of these brake threads, and just so I haven't missed anything, there are NO upgraded calipers that will directly bolt onto the SVX, yes? I read one that said WRX calipers have the same bolt holes, but the SVX rotors are too thin and you'd have to get thicker rotors.

So again, there are currently NO calipers that are a direct, bolt-on replacement for the stock SVX calipers that won't require changes to anything else?

92 SVX 03-19-2017 09:41 AM

Re: Direct bolt-on calipers
 
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Originally Posted by socal1200r (Post 746000)
I've searched thru a bunch of these brake threads, and just so I haven't missed anything, there are NO upgraded calipers that will directly bolt onto the SVX, yes? I read one that said WRX calipers have the same bolt holes, but the SVX rotors are too thin and you'd have to get thicker rotors.

So again, there are currently NO calipers that are a direct, bolt-on replacement for the stock SVX calipers that won't require changes to anything else?

correct there needs an adapter to bolt up any other caliper

svxcess 03-19-2017 11:15 AM

Re: Direct bolt-on calipers
 
There is a project over on SVXNATION And HISE-TECH to bring over the 4-pot calipers, designed for the JDM SVXs.

4pot front/ 2pot rear, plus larger rotors, designed for the OEM 16" wheels.

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92 SVX 03-19-2017 03:05 PM

Re: Direct bolt-on calipers
 
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Originally Posted by svxcess (Post 746014)
There is a project over on SVXNATION And HISE-TECH to bring over the 4-pot calipers, designed for the JDM SVXs.

4pot front/ 2pot rear, plus larger rotors, designed for the OEM 16" wheels.

.

As far as I know the JDM SVX didn't use any other calipers, if so we could just put those on the usdm svx they didn't change any brake mount locations on any of the svx, it wouldn't make financial sense to do so. for such a limited number of cars, However that being said there is a plan underway for "cheap" 4 pot/2 pot to be made to fit

svxcess 03-19-2017 06:24 PM

Re: Direct bolt-on calipers
 
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Originally Posted by 92 SVX (Post 746017)
As far as I know the JDM SVX didn't use any other calipers, if so we could just put those on the USDM SVXthey didn't change any brake mount locations on any of the SVX it wouldn't make financial sense to do so. for such a limited number of cars, However that being said there is a plan underway for "cheap" 4 pot/2 pot to be made to fit

Check with Jamie Price over on SVXNATION. This is the whole idea. The JDM 4 pots do fit. He can explain all the technical details to you. Send him a message.

The first sets of calipers are en-route from Japan. For those of you inquiring about the brake upgrade kits Unfortunately they are being shipped PAL which can take up to 14 weeks to get to Philly.

socal1200r 03-19-2017 08:29 PM

Re: Direct bolt-on calipers
 
That sounds all well and good, but right off the bat I wouldn't be interested in that, because the JDM calipers would have to come from Japan, and I'm sure they won't be cheap. What I'd be interested in is being able to take calipers off a WRX or something similar, and with minimal effort, bolt them right up to a stock SVX brake system. No bigger rotors, no changing hubs, etc. That, combined with s/s brake lines, should be a "Stage 1" brake upgrade. Simple, not very expensive, and something that won't require special tools or a lot of time.

92 SVX 03-20-2017 01:02 PM

Re: Direct bolt-on calipers
 
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Originally Posted by socal1200r (Post 746020)
That sounds all well and good, but right off the bat I wouldn't be interested in that, because the JDM calipers would have to come from Japan, and I'm sure they won't be cheap. What I'd be interested in is being able to take calipers off a WRX or something similar, and with minimal effort, bolt them right up to a stock SVX brake system. No bigger rotors, no changing hubs, etc. That, combined with s/s brake lines, should be a "Stage 1" brake upgrade. Simple, not very expensive, and something that won't require special tools or a lot of time.

Ryan Clark, not sure if he is on the forum here, is working on an adapter that will bolt up with cheap 4 pots that can be found here.

I don't know if your famaliar with some of the wrx community happenings, but caddilac has a very cheap brembo that bolts up to wrx's with a simple adapter that is now easy to get, I believe with a adapter those cheap brembos should work with the svx

SVXNATION 03-20-2017 07:02 PM

Re: Direct bolt-on calipers
 
Well now... :p
Ryan Clark is an active svxnation moderator fellow eastern pa resident and personal friend of mine who is helping us with the 4 pot upgrades. Nothing usdm bolts up period... The JDM Legacy and forester Subaru 4 pots do match up and will fit under the stock wheel as well as the JDM GD 4Pot brembos. But- the brembos require 18" wheels. We can get JDM Legacy 4 Pots shipped to us for half the price of used Brembo calipers. Either caliper can be used with the stock rotors but will have pad overhang. The rear calipers require the correct backing plate swap in order to to bolt up. Let me know if you have any further questions in a format that is at least younger than my kids :p (ie Instagram twitter Facebook tumblr google plus pintrest etc etc you name it svxnation is on it) https://m.facebook.com/groups/1668220880085258

socal1200r 03-20-2017 07:50 PM

Re: Direct bolt-on calipers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 92 SVX (Post 746035)
Ryan Clark, not sure if he is on the forum here, is working on an adapter that will bolt up with cheap 4 pots that can be found here.

I don't know if your famaliar with some of the wrx community happenings, but caddilac has a very cheap brembo that bolts up to wrx's with a simple adapter that is now easy to get, I believe with a adapter those cheap brembos should work with the svx

It would be nice if there were some kind adapters available that would allow other calipers to be a direct bolt on, but as far as I know, there's nothing. I had a 2005 HD Sportster 1200R, and replaced the stock 2-pot front calipers with Wilwood 4-pots, and they were a direct bolt-on. I know I'm comparing apples and oranges here, but for the sake of a simple aluminum adapter, is what's preventing us SVX owners from upgrading our calipers.

socal1200r 03-20-2017 07:53 PM

Re: Direct bolt-on calipers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SVXNATION (Post 746039)
Well now... :p
Ryan Clark is an active svxnation moderator fellow eastern pa resident and personal friend of mine who is helping us with the 4 pot upgrades. Nothing usdm bolts up period... The JDM Legacy and forester Subaru 4 pots do match up and will fit under the stock wheel as well as the JDM GD 4Pot brembos. But- the brembos require 18" wheels. We can get JDM Legacy 4 Pots shipped to us for half the price of used Brembo calipers. Either caliper can be used with the stock rotors but will have pad overhang. The rear calipers require the correct backing plate swap in order to to bolt up. Let me know if you have any further questions in a format that is at least younger than my kids :p (ie Instagram twitter Facebook tumblr google plus pintrest etc etc you name it svxnation is on it) https://m.facebook.com/groups/1668220880085258

Lol, ok, that answers my question, so I'll stop beating that dead horse. As for asking questions in a format that is at least younger than your kids, I still use a 3G flip phone, so no Instagram, Twitter, Tumblr, Pintrest, or any of those other smart phone apps for me, lol!

92 SVX 03-20-2017 08:17 PM

Re: Direct bolt-on calipers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by socal1200r (Post 746040)
It would be nice if there were some kind adapters available that would allow other calipers to be a direct bolt on, but as far as I know, there's nothing. I had a 2005 HD Sportster 1200R, and replaced the stock 2-pot front calipers with Wilwood 4-pots, and they were a direct bolt-on. I know I'm comparing apples and oranges here, but for the sake of a simple aluminum adapter, is what's preventing us SVX owners from upgrading our calipers.

One of the Australian members Darin, I think E on this forum has had an adapter for the 6 pot brembos for years, The problem is costs, Machine shop cost and the liability that they have to take on if it fails.

socal1200r 03-21-2017 05:40 PM

Re: Direct bolt-on calipers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 92 SVX (Post 746045)
One of the Australian members Darin, I think E on this forum has had an adapter for the 6 pot brembos for years, The problem is costs, Machine shop cost and the liability that they have to take on if it fails.

I think I also read somewhere that you also need to run 18 inch wheels with those Brembos?

92 SVX 03-22-2017 11:56 AM

Re: Direct bolt-on calipers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by socal1200r (Post 746067)
I think I also read somewhere that you also need to run 18 inch wheels with those Brembos?

yes, with those 6 pot brembos, you need 18's the 4 pots may be able to fit stock 16's.

I personally think 18s' are the best size though lol

socal1200r 03-22-2017 07:38 PM

Re: Direct bolt-on calipers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 92 SVX (Post 746074)
yes, with those 6 pot brembos, you need 18's the 4 pots may be able to fit stock 16's.

I personally think 18s' are the best size though lol

I'd be happy with 4-pots, since I just got some 17s, lol...

But on this car, 6-pots are probably overkill in stock trim. I have a 2004 Saturn VUE with the Honda 3.5 24V V6 with a 5-speed auto, and that vehicle is MUCH more responsive to drive than my SVX. I think the Honda 3.5 is rated at 250hp, so it has more hp than the SVX, but the VUE just gets up and goes without too much effort. On the SVX, it has a much more leisurely acceleration pace, unless you mash the gas pedal. That's fine by me, it's not really a sports car, more of a sports tourer, and for that it does a great job!

I used to have a Harley Sportster 1200R, and upgraded from the stock 2-pot calipers to Wilwood 4-pots, and that was plenty of brake for that bike. I would imagine going with a 4-pot / 2-pot setup would achieve pretty much the same results on my SVX, all with fitting under my current 17" wheels.

bishop 03-23-2017 11:45 AM

Re: Direct bolt-on calipers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by socal1200r (Post 746082)
I'd be happy with 4-pots, since I just got some 17s, lol...

But on this car, 6-pots are probably overkill in stock trim. I have a 2004 Saturn VUE with the Honda 3.5 24V V6 with a 5-speed auto, and that vehicle is MUCH more responsive to drive than my SVX. I think the Honda 3.5 is rated at 250hp, so it has more hp than the SVX, but the VUE just gets up and goes without too much effort. On the SVX, it has a much more leisurely acceleration pace, unless you mash the gas pedal. That's fine by me, it's not really a sports car, more of a sports tourer, and for that it does a great job!

I used to have a Harley Sportster 1200R, and upgraded from the stock 2-pot calipers to Wilwood 4-pots, and that was plenty of brake for that bike. I would imagine going with a 4-pot / 2-pot setup would achieve pretty much the same results on my SVX, all with fitting under my current 17" wheels.

saturn vue has super short gearing comparatively.


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