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SVX92-97 02-15-2009 08:03 AM

Radar/Laser Detector w/scrambler
 
Anyone have or had one of these, and know if they really work. This is supposedly the latest technology on radar laser detector with a built in scrambler.

http://www.radar-detector-superstore...newrmrade.html

SoCal LS-L 02-15-2009 02:41 PM

Re: Radar/Laser Detector w/scrambler
 
It is my understanding that active scramblers are illegal in most states, that being said.... if a cop tries to clock your speed, and his display blanks out, he will know somethings up and pull you over anyways. Radar readings are only one way to get a speeding ticket.... they also convict on an officers "estimation" of your speed, which they are trained on in the academy. Id save your money and just drive safely :)

Crazy_pilot 02-15-2009 04:51 PM

Re: Radar/Laser Detector w/scrambler
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SoCal LS-L (Post 587567)
they also convict on an officers "estimation" of your speed, which they are trained on in the academy.

Depends on your location. A while back a cop was stopped driving his own car , radar clocked at 190 KPH. They went to court and his defense was that his car is governed to less than 190 (Chevy Impala), so the radar couldn't be reading accurately. The case was dismissed, no charges. I would think that going nearly twice the speed limit should be pretty obvious, but short of irrefutable evidence it's often pretty easy to get the case thrown out.

Turbone 02-15-2009 09:49 PM

Re: Radar/Laser Detector w/scrambler
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SVX92-97 (Post 587524)
Anyone have or had one of these, and know if they really work. This is supposedly the latest technology on radar laser detector with a built in scrambler.

http://www.radar-detector-superstore...newrmrade.html

Alot depends on the laws of your State.
Also, sometimes it matters if the unit is passive or active on the scrambling.
A unit that combines both should have the laser emitters/sensors down by the license plate because thats where you get the best return from.
Heres RMR's FAQ,
http://rockymountainradar.com/faqs

kwren 02-16-2009 12:43 AM

Re: Radar/Laser Detector w/scrambler
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Crazy_pilot (Post 587594)
Depends on your location. A while back a cop was stopped driving his own car , radar clocked at 190 KPH. They went to court and his defense was that his car is governed to less than 190 (Chevy Impala), so the radar couldn't be reading accurately. The case was dismissed, no charges. I would think that going nearly twice the speed limit should be pretty obvious, but short of irrefutable evidence it's often pretty easy to get the case thrown out.

A Cop?
A member of the club... Need I say more?

svxistentialist 02-16-2009 03:13 AM

Re: Radar/Laser Detector w/scrambler
 
+1 with Keith here.

Because he was police the court was lenient and gave him the benefit of the doubt.

It is highly unlikely they would give the same leniency to you in similar circumstances.

oregondave 02-17-2009 10:38 AM

Re: Radar/Laser Detector w/scrambler
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SoCal LS-L (Post 587567)
It is my understanding that active scramblers are illegal in most states, that being said.... if a cop tries to clock your speed, and his display blanks out, he will know somethings up and pull you over anyways. Radar readings are only one way to get a speeding ticket.... they also convict on an officers "estimation" of your speed, which they are trained on in the academy. Id save your money and just drive safely :)

uh what kind of evidence is a blank gun? sorry they can't give you a ticket with no reading to back it up...and an officers estimation of speed is done through the method of "pacing", which they have to be following you to do. It's one or the other...if a cop is following you yeah you should probably slow down.

Not that I disagree with your basic point of just driving safely - you're right. However, if I'm driving on an empty straight stretch of road in a car that's capable of going really fast - I want to be able to do so!

sicksubie 02-23-2009 02:37 PM

Re: Radar/Laser Detector w/scrambler
 
I have a Rocky Mountain Radar unit and it is great....

SoCal LS-L 02-23-2009 02:59 PM

Re: Radar/Laser Detector w/scrambler
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by oregondave (Post 587882)
uh what kind of evidence is a blank gun? sorry they can't give you a ticket with no reading to back it up...and an officers estimation of speed is done through the method of "pacing", which they have to be following you to do. It's one or the other...if a cop is following you yeah you should probably slow down.

Not that I disagree with your basic point of just driving safely - you're right. However, if I'm driving on an empty straight stretch of road in a car that's capable of going really fast - I want to be able to do so!

Its enough evidence for them to suspect you, pull you over for some menial violation like 1 mph over the limit, and demand you hand over the jammer. Believe me, blank screens RARELY happen in normal circumstances for any microwave band or laser, so they know somethings up. And an officer CAN estimate your speed from ANYWHERE in line of sight.... they dont have to pace you (learned that the hard way, 80 in a 50 zone). Even if they dont convict you on the speed violation, they will fine you for illegal equipment and confiscate it. Dont think they will search you? If you dont give them consent, you wait for the K9 unit, hope youre not in a hurry..... and if theres ever been a trace of pot, meth, coke, etc in your car from you or a previous owner, and the dog alerts, they rip your car apart to find what they think is there. I have friends in the NHP and sheriffs dept, and hear about this stuff. I love to drive fast also, but id save it for the track or drag strip.... or make a trip to the salt flats and peg your speedometer.

jeffast 02-23-2009 11:31 PM

Re: Radar/Laser Detector w/scrambler
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SoCal LS-L (Post 588754)
Its enough evidence for them to suspect you, pull you over for some menial violation like 1 mph over the limit, and demand you hand over the jammer. Believe me, blank screens RARELY happen in normal circumstances for any microwave band or laser, so they know somethings up. And an officer CAN estimate your speed from ANYWHERE in line of sight.... they dont have to pace you (learned that the hard way, 80 in a 50 zone). Even if they dont convict you on the speed violation, they will fine you for illegal equipment and confiscate it. Dont think they will search you? If you dont give them consent, you wait for the K9 unit, hope youre not in a hurry..... and if theres ever been a trace of pot, meth, coke, etc in your car from you or a previous owner, and the dog alerts, they rip your car apart to find what they think is there. I have friends in the NHP and sheriffs dept, and hear about this stuff. I love to drive fast also, but id save it for the track or drag strip.... or make a trip to the salt flats and peg your speedometer.

police are not always right, that simple. speed limits are bull ****, and have very little effect on safty when you are out of a neighborhood. if i had the funding i would have a scanner and jammer in my car right now. i do drive safe, but i am more then capable of decideing a safe speed in my car while going in a straight line on the freeway, its just one more way for the govrenment to pad their wallets for the most part. i am not advocating speeding. i don't speed in school zone, near parks, or through neighboor hoods, but i feel that back roads, and freeways are fair game.

svxistentialist 02-24-2009 07:28 AM

Re: Radar/Laser Detector w/scrambler
 
Over here in Ireland we currently use a small number of automated fixed position Gatsos, which work by radar. If you get caught by one of these you are a fool or from out of town. :rolleyes:

If you are travelling nationwide, the roving police traps are always Laser. For these you can be caught very easily, they only need seconds to lock on and they use a narrow beam.

Using a laser scrambler is frowned on and illegal. They can impound your vehicle. If you are the only car on the road and you jam their device, they ARE going to stop you and search your car.

I see a scope for a device which is currently not catered by any of the speed detector manufacturers. Say you have a radar/laser detector which can jam laser. If you are travelling below the legal speed limit you do not need this device to be jamming police laser guns.

So how about somebody inventing software that can pair this device with an accurate GPS unit? The GPS unit monitors the location and speed of your vehicle. Assume the GPS unit has a database of all active speed limit boundaries [they do have over here] .

If your vehicle is travelling below the speed limit the GPS could be programmed to deactivate the jammer, though not the detector. If the vehicle is travelling a user resettable value above the limit [2 mph, 5 mph, whatever you decide], then the GPS unit turns on the jammer.

That would be a device I would be interested in having, although I must admit, I don't speed much. I just don't like points on my license, and I don't like the sneaky places they tend to catch people.

Joe:)

SoCal LS-L 02-24-2009 10:21 AM

Re: Radar/Laser Detector w/scrambler
 
All my years of dreaming of an Autobahn between Reno and Vegas have so far resulted in nada :mad: We need one for the U.S. I mean cmon.... why cant we have one?? Im calling Barak today and getting this straightened out....

kwren 02-24-2009 12:52 PM

Re: Radar/Laser Detector w/scrambler
 
Autobahn between Reno and Vegas? Sounds like a plan!!! What a spectacular idea.

Anyother idea since the fateful November election and "help is on the way thingie, Stock has been in free fall and unemployment has doubled. Just since November. Yes, seems like the few people in America that have a brain left didn't buy the Obama con.

Since the "create 3,000,000 new private jobs fell through maybe that Autobahn between Reno and Vegas would help with some additional government jobs.

The good news is that at the end of this hopefully only 4 year fiasco, if only 3,500.000 people remain employed in the once great USA, mission accomplished can be declared by Obama! If you pay attention, the job creation has been changed to "jobs saved"!!!

go "Autobahn between Reno and Vegas"

Keith:)

svxistentialist 02-24-2009 01:56 PM

Re: Radar/Laser Detector w/scrambler
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kwren (Post 588903)

Anyother idea since the fateful November election and "help is on the way thingie, Stock has been in free fall and unemployment has doubled. Just since November. Yes, seems like the few people in America that have a brain left didn't buy the Obama con.


go "Autobahn between Reno and Vegas"

Keith:)


Keith

Obama has sworn the Presidential oath now over a month ago, and he has not yet managed to reverse the deepening world economic crisis. :mad: I am seriously pi$$ed, my faith in him has weakened. Grrrrr!

The problem is, here in Ireland we have exactly the same thing, the same statistics, and we don't even have a President to blame! :mad: :rolleyes:

I dunno, I could emigrate, except probably that would require an autobahn to the Moon, since all first world economies seem to be in freefall.

Maybe on the Moon we could set up the new Lunar Banking System, which could be a major improvement on the greed-driven Lunatic system we are stuck with down these parts.

Joe ;) :)


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