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SoCal LS-L 02-03-2009 06:45 PM

Timing belt parts interchangability?
 
I found only one thread on this so I have a couple questions.....

For the camshaft pulley, is there another subaru engine with the same size??
Will a timing belt from a 4-cylinder DOHC work on the SVX??
Are any of the smooth idler pulleys the same on another subaru engine??

The reason I ask is that we have a Pick-N-Pull here and I dont think ill have much luck finding an SVX, but im sure they have other subies. If any of these parts are compatible, what year and model would they be?? Im low on funds so any help with identifying the suitable replacements I could find there would be GREATLY appreciated :) (pick-n-pull is a DIY yard, and they are very inexpensive, which is good)

1986nate 02-03-2009 07:09 PM

Re: Timing belt parts interchangability?
 
I am almost certain no other t-belts work and pretty sure that the pulleys don't work as well but not as sure on them.

YourConfused 02-03-2009 09:41 PM

Re: Timing belt parts interchangability?
 
I may just have a low millage t-belt with all pulleys and tensioners that I could send you.

SoCal LS-L 02-03-2009 09:56 PM

Re: Timing belt parts interchangability?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by YourConfused (Post 585824)
I may just have a low millage t-belt with all pulleys and tensioners that I could send you.

Awesome!! How much? :)

If its a package deal ill still buy it all, im cool with just the R cam pulley and belt though if you'd like to keep some spare parts.

YourConfused 02-03-2009 10:22 PM

Re: Timing belt parts interchangability?
 
you have pm

Mensaf 02-04-2009 06:51 AM

Re: Timing belt parts interchangability?
 
Dude, I just picked all that stuff up, along with a waterpump and gaskets, for about 150. Used belts? Really?

TomsSVX 02-04-2009 08:02 AM

Re: Timing belt parts interchangability?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SoCal LS-L (Post 585795)
I found only one thread on this so I have a couple questions.....

For the camshaft pulley, is there another subaru engine with the same size??
Will a timing belt from a 4-cylinder DOHC work on the SVX??
Are any of the smooth idler pulleys the same on another subaru engine??

The reason I ask is that we have a Pick-N-Pull here and I dont think ill have much luck finding an SVX, but im sure they have other subies. If any of these parts are compatible, what year and model would they be?? Im low on funds so any help with identifying the suitable replacements I could find there would be GREATLY appreciated :) (pick-n-pull is a DIY yard, and they are very inexpensive, which is good)

No Subaru has the same belt, idlers, or water pump as the SVX. the blet has more girth (it is turning 8 more valves on the cams) and the idlers and pulleys are sized to match. BUY NEW PARTS, used parts are asking for a nightmare

Tom

SoCal LS-L 02-04-2009 09:28 AM

Re: Timing belt parts interchangability?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mensaf (Post 585849)
Dude, I just picked all that stuff up, along with a waterpump and gaskets, for about 150. Used belts? Really?

Well the NEW cam gear will run me $75 new and isnt part of any set.... I already bought the water pump, and a slightly used timing belt is OK with me since $$$ is tight. A used belt is fine in my experience as long as its not cracked or glazed. I have seen some clowns go 230K on the original belt and still not want it replaced at our shop :lol:

SoCal LS-L 02-05-2009 07:48 AM

Re: Timing belt parts interchangability?
 
Bump: Ok so im getting a nice used low mileage belt from a member here shortly, have installed my waterpump, cleaned the burnt belt off my idlers, and now I have to deal with the cam gear issue.

I have decided to yank the cam gear, clean it with solvent, and secure the outer ring back on with acid-core solder (-hears Tom shrieking-:lol:). The ring seems secure as is but I want to make doubly sure it will stay on.... and I dont want to pay $75 new for something I can confidently fix.

Now as far as the idlers go, they ARE supposed to have some pretty good resistance to spinning right? I mean theyre not supposed to spin like skateboard wheels correct? Mine are silent and smooth but take some effort to turn.... typical of a high speed bearing?

Once I get her going ill be happy like this http://i545.photobucket.com/albums/h...5377760_53.gif

kwren 02-05-2009 02:11 PM

Re: Timing belt parts interchangability?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SoCal LS-L (Post 586013)
Bump: Ok so im getting a nice used low mileage belt from a member here shortly, have installed my waterpump, cleaned the burnt belt off my idlers, and now I have to deal with the cam gear issue.

I have decided to yank the cam gear, clean it with solvent, and secure the outer ring back on with acid-core solder (-hears Tom shrieking-:lol:).

Once I get her going ill be happy like this http://i545.photobucket.com/albums/h...5377760_53.gif

I just woke up and turned the computer on... came directly to this SVX form... my daily routine... and I can't remember what a cam gear is.

I can't imagine anything in the equation that acid core solder would be strong enough to have a chance to repair.:confused:

Maybe when I get fully awake I will get it?

Might be best to go back to bed...

Keith:)

SoCal LS-L 02-05-2009 05:14 PM

Re: Timing belt parts interchangability?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kwren (Post 586095)
I just woke up and turned the computer on... came directly to this SVX form... my daily routine... and I can't remember what a cam gear is.

I can't imagine anything in the equation that acid core solder would be strong enough to have a chance to repair.:confused:

Maybe when I get fully awake I will get it?

Might be best to go back to bed...

Keith:)

lol... its the pulley that drives the camshaft, powered by the timing belt. The outer ring came off (the pulley is at least 3 seperate parts), I tapped it back on gently, and I want to make sure it doesnt pop off again. It probably wouldnt like before since the timing belt wouldnt be riding directly on it (from seized waterpump), but I reinforced it with plumbing solder. It doesnt look pro but ill feel much better about it staying on now.

sperry 02-05-2009 05:27 PM

Re: Timing belt parts interchangability?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SoCal LS-L (Post 586142)
lol... its the pulley that drives the camshaft, powered by the timing belt. The outer ring came off (the pulley is at least 3 seperate parts), I tapped it back on gently, and I want to make sure it doesnt pop off again. It probably wouldnt like before since the timing belt wouldnt be riding directly on it (from seized waterpump), but I reinforced it with plumbing solder. It doesnt look pro but ill feel much better about it staying on now.

I'd be more concerned with throwing the pulley way out of balance more than the solder failing to hold the ring on. Nothing like a nice hard vibration to wear out that timing belt in a month (or worse, get it to jump teeth and make the engine run like ass, if at all).

kwren 02-05-2009 06:24 PM

Re: Timing belt parts interchangability?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SoCal LS-L (Post 586142)
lol... its the pulley that drives the camshaft, powered by the timing belt. The outer ring came off (the pulley is at least 3 seperate parts), I tapped it back on gently, and I want to make sure it doesnt pop off again. It probably wouldnt like before since the timing belt wouldnt be riding directly on it (from seized waterpump), but I reinforced it with plumbing solder. It doesnt look pro but ill feel much better about it staying on now.

Sort of like a sprocket?

I tried going back to bed and I am not doing that much better now that I am up again. I seriously hope tyhat I am dreaming this whole thing and will wake up and come to the computer and nothing about this will actually be there..

I still am not getting it. I know there is a sprocket that is bolted on each of the cam shafts on my car, but haven't a clue what we are talking about here. Since I don't have any plumbers solder anyway, I would still be in trouble if I understood.
So far, thank God, I don't think I need that fix anyhow.

Keith:)

SoCal LS-L 02-05-2009 08:10 PM

Re: Timing belt parts interchangability?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sperry (Post 586144)
I'd be more concerned with throwing the pulley way out of balance more than the solder failing to hold the ring on. Nothing like a nice hard vibration to wear out that timing belt in a month (or worse, get it to jump teeth and make the engine run like ass, if at all).

The solder weighed maybe 2 grams compared to the 3-4 lbs of the cam gear, which was distributed nearly evenly around outside ring. Since the cams spin 1/2 as fast as the crankshaft, I think ill be ok as far as balance goes.

LoL Keith, yeah its the sprocket at the end of the cams..... they have retainer rings on the front and rear that hold the belt in the center while its spinning. My front-side ring popped off in the whole waterpump debacle, so I pressed it back on and reinforced it with some solder to make sure it doesnt happen again under normal operating conditions.

kwren 02-05-2009 08:14 PM

Re: Timing belt parts interchangability?
 
Thanks for sharing that with me.
I didn't realize that was the way it was made!
Information might come in handy for me as well as others some day:)

Keith


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