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Splinter's 6 Speed Swap
I'll be starting my swap in about 2 weeks, I'm planning on taking about a week to have it done (did a 5 speed swap in my Legacy in 3 days)
I've got: 06 6MT Shift linkage Shifter bushing Starter Flywheel Clutch Clutch hydraulics Pedals Front axle seals 6MT tranny mount Helicoil kit Beer A few friends I've got a welder, planning on building my own crossmember by modifying the one for the auto. Stay tuned for pics! |
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Do you have the R180 rear diff and axles?
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No, using the stock rear diff. It should hold up fine, I was using an R160 in my 280whp impreza for racing until recently.
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Hold up fine, maybe. Work...definitely not. The 6MT doesn't use 3.54 diffs like the SVX. It has 3.90 diffs, with a 1.1:1 reduction in the AWD transfer gears, giving a final drive of 3.54. With the SVX rear end you'd have a 3.54 front and the equivalent of a 3.22 rear.
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I think you misunderstand how the reduction gear works. The front diff is unreduced, 3.9 final drive. The transfer gears reduce the driveshaft speed 1.1:1, and sends it to the 3.54 final drive rear. 3.9 front = 3.54 * 1.1 rear
The 06-07 STI comes stock with a 3.54 rear diff |
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Oh really? Well there ya go, guess I had misinterpreted what I'd read. Thanks. I'll keep an eye on this thread, since I'm also planning on doing the 6MT thing this summer.
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6 speed should be arriving tonight, putting it in on saturday. Got the bolts and bellhousing soaking in penetrating oil right now. New axle seals are sitting waiting.
Anyone have any tips on modifying the shift linkage? |
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TomsSVX and the guys that work with him can set you up with a kit that includes shift linkage, pedal assembly, and tranny mount. It will save you alot of time and effort. They've done a few conversions and have the custome stuff down pretty good.
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Naw, I know about that stuff but I'd rather do it myself. I have all the equipment to do it, I custom fabbed everything I needed for my rotated 20G in my Impreza. Was just looking for some measurements.
The trans crossmember is cake to do, same with the pedals. Just not totally sure on the linkage, looks like it needs to be cut and rewelded with a 2-3 inch rod. Not sure how that works with the reverse lockout cable either. Trans arrived this morning, incidentally. $3000 canadian for everything. |
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The clutch that came with the trans was toast, so now I'm a little stuck on what to do.
I'm thinking about using an Exedy OEM replacement WRX clutch (I have a spare WRX flywheel), seeing as the WRX is around equal in power levels to the SVX. A new STI clutch is way, way too expensive for what I'm willing to put into this job. |
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Stock pedals are out, shifter is out, automatic trans is seperated from the motor by about an inch, knuckles are beat to crap from working under the dash. Bleh.
FYI, you can do the swap without cracking brake lines if you unbolt the master cylinder from the booster |
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Linkage is a bit tougher than the 5mt linkage but still workable. Everything is going to need a 3.5" extension. You will need to lop off the end of the cable and carefully weld in a 3.5" shank. Also cutting the cable mount at the bend where it retains the cable and pushing that forward 3.5". Careful when you do the actual linkage. It is easy to misalign the forks ever so slightly and have the shifter tweaked in the console.
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So, how'd the weekend's work go?
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ermm...
It didn't. We got drunk and crashed cars into each other instead :lol: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...J/IMG_4382.jpg I'll pick away at the swap evenings after work this week. |
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Getting ready for the upcoming, summer-fair, bumper car season? :D
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Bleh ok.
Pedal box is in, after much damage to my knuckles and the firewall. Need to do a little more grinding before the master will fit. Trans is most of the way out, but unlike the imprezas and legacys I'm used to, turns out you can't drop the trans with the cv axles still attached and have them pop out, so now I have to do some wiggle work to get the axles back out. I'm probably around 6 hours into the swap so far, I figure tomorrow I should get in another 6 hours, hopefully finish dropping the 4eat and get the 6mt shimmied into place. |
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Auto trans is out, speed sensor is swapped over, new seals in the 6MT (you don't need to remove the backlash plates for this) axle stubs are swapped over, just about ready to put the 6 speed into its new home!
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6MT is in, pedals are done, axles are in, driveshaft is on, new trans crossmember is 50% done
basically all tahts left is welding up the crossmember and the shifter extension :D |
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So after roughly 20 hours I'm pretty much done. Just some wiring to take care of, should be driving it tonight with any luck.
I strongly advise anyone who tackles this to just buy the damn kit from Tom, fabricating the extended shifter turned out to be a major hassle. |
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Been driving it all day, needs some fine tuning but wow, a manual trans totally transforms the car. It's like night and day.
Anyone know what wires to jump to disable the ignition lock? I see lots of threads where it mentioned but no one says what colour wires :confused: |
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What a great day you had for your test drive. I'm just a wee bit jealous...:rolleyes: I seem to be burning thru gas these days, so I'll have to bite the bullet and get the plugs changed during spring tune up this week. I'm going up island mid week, so getting the oil changed, tires rotated etc before I leave.
Make sure she's ready for the open road. |
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just unplug the shift lock control module under the center console to get the ignition lock to work properly.
Tom |
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I did and its not working :|
UPDATE: So I just plugged the auto shifter back in, hooked the interlock system back up, put it into park and pulled the key out. You might want to add a note to your 5 speed swap instructions to make sure the auto is in park when you remove it... The funniest thing about this is that I did the same exact thing 3 years ago when I did my 5 speed swap in my turbo legacy, lol. I was searching for an answer and I came across my own post from back then, lol. |
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He he, the first time I put the key in the SVX after removing the auto shifter I unplugged the shift lock unit and tried to take the key out and it wouldn't come out. I played with it for a while, gave up and went inside. About 20 minutes later I went back out and figured it out, I forgot to push in on the key to turn it all the way back!
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haha thats awesome :)
When I was trying to install the brake booster I tried to put my hand through the windshield to tighten up the nuts on the other side. :lol: |
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Nice job I was wondering. using the 6MT, are you using the stock rear diff and axel?
Your just changing the transmission and everything else is stock right? |
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which model wrx 6 speed has the step down centre diff?
i might start hunting for one :D |
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US 07+
Tom |
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I'd remove the wooden pallets from the back before I lost my head!
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did they start in 06?? I have been saying 07 as a safety:o
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I was pretty sure it was 2007 as well...
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According to This thread it's 06-07
And the transmission I have is definitely from an 06 and it's definitely a step down center trans. Does that mean all 06s are step downs? Not necessarily. But the one I have is. |
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My SVX isn't getting much love because of the Impreza hogging all my time
If I were to put this up for sale, would anyone be interested? |
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Whole car or the trans? :eek:
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Whole car.
I'd probably want around $6000 for it (Canadian) It's a US spec car tho |
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I wish I had money.
A 5-speed claret for sale in another thread, now this black 6-speed converted car... I want a manual-gearbox converted SVX, and ideally a 6-speed just like this one. But I don't have money. Unless you want to trade... I love my Legacy, but the though crosses my mind to make a deal. :D |
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Straight across trade? :lol:
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