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Green1995SVX 07-07-2002 09:19 AM

Headlight Washers
 
How are they activated? Where is the button etc... Anyone know what parts are needed for the install?

-Mike

svxistentialist 07-07-2002 03:34 PM

?Good question?
 
Don't know the answers here Mike. However, to the left of my steering column there is a built in coin slot. I notice on the UK cars in that position there are buttons. One of these probably activates the headlamp power wash, and the other might put on the rear fog lights. Can any UK owner confirm??

Joe

Jamsvx 07-07-2002 08:56 PM

We don't have them here (although the sales brochure shows a car so equipped).

I don't like the fact that they protrude - the ones on the Jaguar XK8 and the BMW 8 series are a work of art!

Andy 07-08-2002 12:42 AM

Haven't managed to find a button for mine yet, would be interesting to see if they work, but with all of the rain here, I can't see the point of them anyway :confused:

Green1995SVX 07-08-2002 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Andy
Haven't managed to find a button for mine yet, would be interesting to see if they work, but with all of the rain here, I can't see the point of them anyway :confused:
Hey Andy-

What's the pushbutton on the end of the stalk that controls the light functions do? Seems like a good place for it now that I think about it.

Also, the switches for the seat warmers go where the coil holder is :)

-Mike

Andy 07-08-2002 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Green1995SVX


Hey Andy-

What's the pushbutton on the end of the stalk that controls the light functions do? Seems like a good place for it now that I think about it.

Also, the switches for the seat warmers go where the coil holder is :)

-Mike


That switch restores the radio and clock to full illumination when the lights are on. They auto-dim normally.


Andy

Green1995SVX 07-08-2002 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Andy



That switch restores the radio and clock to full illumination when the lights are on. They auto-dim normally.


Andy

Yeah... thats what mine does too... I wonder where that switch could be?

-Mike

Andy 07-08-2002 12:48 PM

According to Subaru, it is the switch immediately to the left of the cruise control, under the fuel gauge. Mine is blanked off.


Andy

Green1995SVX 07-08-2002 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Andy
According to Subaru, it is the switch immediately to the left of the cruise control, under the fuel gauge. Mine is blanked off.


Andy

Maybe your car was hit in the front at one time, and the bumper was replaced with a unit that had washers? Thats the only thing i can think of... Any ideas?

-Mike

Phil Hill 07-08-2002 05:08 PM

Wash day blues......
 
OK, can confirm that the headlamp washer switch is, in fact as you describe, between rear window demist and steering column. It has a little icon of a headlamp with a washer and wiper on it. When operated it produces a jet so powerfull the splash back reaches the windscreen, so it has potential to soak passers-by as well !!

Hope this helps guys.

Phil.

svxistentialist 07-08-2002 05:37 PM

Virginal on the ridiculous
 
Andy,

So your car has the nipples on the bumper, but no way of making them squirt, right?

Joe:D :D

Andy 07-09-2002 05:13 AM

can't tweak my nipples
 
Definitely the original bumper. Maybe Subaru knew that it was destined for such a wet place, so didn't bother fitting the nipple tweaker.


Andy

b3lha 07-10-2002 08:18 AM

Headlamp washers
 
I posted this some time ago, but I'll reproduce it here in case anyone's interested. It's the result of some research I did for an SVX owner in Japan who wanted to fit headlamp washers. (He concluded that it was too expensive to be worthwhile).

These are the parts required to fit headlamp washers to an SVX that doesn't have them, according to Lancasters of Pangbourne www.lancasterplc.co.uk

Parts required for headlamp washer modification.
1.TANK HEADLAMP WASHER £38.89+VAT
2.MOTOR & PUMP HLAMP WASHER £85.55+VAT
3.HOSE X2 £7.77+VAT
4.NOZZLE HLAMP WASHERS X 2 £11.95+VAT
5.VALVE £10.85+VAT
6.TANK SCREEN WASHER £48.63+VAT
7.SMALL FIXINGS& CLIPS APPRX £30.00+VAT
8.SWITCH PANEL ASSY £159.00+VAT

I was also given the following list of part numbers.

86631pa010 tank headlamp wash
86611pa000 motor headlamp wash
86655pa100 hose headlamp wash x 2
86636pa040 nozzle headlamp wash x 2
786634010 valve
86631pa030 tank screen wash
786621000 motor&pump screen wash
86615pa020 cover wash tank

Phil.

svxistentialist 09-10-2007 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b3lha (Post 47807)
I posted this some time ago, but I'll reproduce it here in case anyone's interested. It's the result of some research I did for an SVX owner in Japan who wanted to fit headlamp washers. (He concluded that it was too expensive to be worthwhile).

These are the parts required to fit headlamp washers to an SVX that doesn't have them, according to Lancasters of Pangbourne www.lancasterplc.co.uk

Parts required for headlamp washer modification.
1.TANK HEADLAMP WASHER £38.89+VAT
2.MOTOR & PUMP HLAMP WASHER £85.55+VAT
3.HOSE X2 £7.77+VAT
4.NOZZLE HLAMP WASHERS X 2 £11.95+VAT
5.VALVE £10.85+VAT
6.TANK SCREEN WASHER £48.63+VAT
7.SMALL FIXINGS& CLIPS APPRX £30.00+VAT
8.SWITCH PANEL ASSY £159.00+VAT

I was also given the following list of part numbers.

86631pa010 tank headlamp wash
86611pa000 motor headlamp wash
86655pa100 hose headlamp wash x 2
86636pa040 nozzle headlamp wash x 2
786634010 valve
86631pa030 tank screen wash
786621000 motor&pump screen wash
86615pa020 cover wash tank

Phil.

Phil

One of the guys in the US is looking to put in a headlamp washer button [or switch, if you like] He dislikes the look of blank switch positions. He only wants the switch, or the outer cover of the switch, but I presume he may want to light it up at night.
[He's not interested in washing the headlamps, just in the look of the dashboard]:rolleyes:

Anyway, your upper list above prices a "Switch Panel Assy". Yet the part numbers do not mention this.

Any chance you have the part number for the interior switch?

Joe

supertole 09-10-2007 09:35 AM

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Here it is! My SVX (LHD) has it but it doesn't work :(

svxistentialist 09-10-2007 10:28 AM

Hi supertole.

Looks good! You have the switch!

When you say it does not work, by that do you mean the washer system is in your car, but is broken, or that you have only the switch, and it is not operational?

Joe:)

b3lha 09-11-2007 05:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by svxistentialist (Post 492268)
Phil

One of the guys in the US is looking to put in a headlamp washer button [or switch, if you like] He dislikes the look of blank switch positions. He only wants the switch, or the outer cover of the switch, but I presume he may want to light it up at night.
[He's not interested in washing the headlamps, just in the look of the dashboard]:rolleyes:

Anyway, your upper list above prices a "Switch Panel Assy". Yet the part numbers do not mention this.

Any chance you have the part number for the interior switch?

Joe

I don't have the part number for the switch. Many years ago, an SVX owner in Japan asked me to get those details from my dealer. He traded me some 4WS troubleshooting info.

You can probably find the part numbers by digging out Petr's "Subaru FAST" dealer software and feeding it a UK chassis number. I don't have a suitable PC setup at the moment. I was thinking it would be cool to setup a small VMware with an old DOS/Windows install and the Subaru FAST software. But that last thing I need right now is another project.:rolleyes:

svxistentialist 09-11-2007 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b3lha (Post 492556)
I don't have the part number for the switch. Many years ago, an SVX owner in Japan asked me to get those details from my dealer. He traded me some 4WS troubleshooting info.

You can probably find the part numbers by digging out Petr's "Subaru FAST" dealer software and feeding it a UK chassis number. I don't have a suitable PC setup at the moment. I was thinking it would be cool to setup a small VMware with an old DOS/Windows install and the Subaru FAST software. But that last thing I need right now is another project.:rolleyes:

Thanks Phil

I looked for it but all I got was "Server not found" crap.

Where does it reside? If I can get a copy, I know a chap who would possibly like the challenge of maybe making it work on XP or something we can address every day.

Have you a copy, or where is the Petr address for it?

Joe:)

b3lha 09-11-2007 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by svxistentialist (Post 492582)
Thanks Phil

I looked for it but all I got was "Server not found" crap.

Where does it reside? If I can get a copy, I know a chap who would possibly like the challenge of maybe making it work on XP or something we can address every day.

Have you a copy, or where is the Petr address for it?

Joe:)

I know I have a copy somewhere, but I can't find it at present. I'll have a look for it.

Be interesting to see if your chap can make it work on XP. If not then VMware is the way to go.

svxistentialist 09-11-2007 10:39 AM

Thanks Phil

You let me know what you have, and any pointers you think will help on the software side, and I will see if I can get my chap getting it operational.

It will be a big boon for everybody if we have the resource of being able to get UK part numbers based on chassis numbers.

Thanks

Joe

huck369 09-11-2007 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy (Post 47660)
Definitely the original bumper. Maybe Subaru knew that it was destined for such a wet place, so didn't bother fitting the nipple tweaker.


Andy


Maybe they knew there would be a niple tweaker driving it....:D

mohrds 09-11-2007 12:32 PM

I also would like the switch assembly part number. I know that Joe would be haapy to order one for me and send it to the states. :banana:

I have VMWare sessions for DOS, Windows 3.1, 3.11, 95, 98, etc. Just let me know what you need and I'll send you a link to download it from my server.

Please.......:drool:

Doug

crazyhorse 09-11-2007 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by svxistentialist (Post 47614)
Andy,

So your car has the nipples on the bumper, but no way of making them squirt, right?

Joe:D :D


Good grief you city boys! I bet you've never even seen that end of a cow:p
Squeeze & pull..GENTLY & make sure your hands are warm, or you'll get kicked.
ROFL

svxistentialist 09-11-2007 01:49 PM

Sounds good Doug.

We'll see what we can do for you when we get this sucker spittin' the numbers.

Joe;):D

supertole 09-12-2007 11:09 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by svxistentialist (Post 492321)
Hi supertole.

Looks good! You have the switch!

When you say it does not work, by that do you mean the washer system is in your car, but is broken, or that you have only the switch, and it is not operational?

Joe:)

The washer system is in my car but it doesn't work and I haven't managed to repair it because it's not a thing I will use usually so I don't waste the money on it.
Look this web:

http://www.detali.ru/cat/su/su.dll?S...VUo1kJBB70cPw=

http://www.detali.ru/cat/su/su.dll

Regards!

mohrds 09-12-2007 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by supertole (Post 492828)
The washer system is in my car but it doesn't work and I haven't managed to repair it because it's not a thing I will use usually so I don't waste the money on it.
Look this web:

http://www.detali.ru/cat/su/su.dll?S...VUo1kJBB70cPw=

http://www.detali.ru/cat/su/su.dll

Regards!

well, it looks like it *might* be either 83001PA000, 83001PA090 or 83001PA250 but without pictures or better descriptions, I can't be sure.

mohrds 09-12-2007 12:47 PM

Wow!

They actually list just the covers for the switches! http://ww2.think-it-group.com/files/smileys/rock2.gif

83003PA010 - NO.2 DOMMY - 2C.(RH+A0)
83003PA020 - NO.3 REAR DEFOGER - 2C.(RH+A0)
83003PA030 - NO.4 HAZARD - 2C.(RH+A0)
83003PA040 - NO.8 HEADLAMP WASHER - 2C.RH
83003PA060 - NO.6 CRUISE - 2C.(RH+A0)
83003PA070 - NO.7 REAR FOG LAMP - 2C.RH
83003PA080 - NO.5 CAP - 2C.(RH+A0)
83003PA090 - NO.1 CAP - 2C.(RH+A0)

Anyone thinking "Group Buy"????

svxistentialist 09-12-2007 02:09 PM

Good find!

Thanks Supertole!

83003PA040 is obviously the switch top for the headlights washer that we were looking for.

This link is a handy facility.

I wonder if the Russian prices are reasonable?

Joe:)

mohrds 09-12-2007 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by svxistentialist (Post 492872)
Good find!

Thanks Supertole!

83003PA040 is obviously the switch top for the headlights washer that we were looking for.

This link is a handy facility.

I wonder if the Russian prices are reasonable?

Joe:)

I've spent quite a few hours on that site already creating a spreadsheet of available switch banks by model/year/destination.

So far I have found 15 different switch banks :eek: and I am still cross referencing. Four of them for sure have the headlamp washer. I'm still tracking down what the center switch is in those four so we can order the correct combination.

BTW: anyone know what a "IMMBI INDICATERI" is? It occupied a switch position in 1996-97 SVXs both LHD and RHD that were NOT bound for the US, Japan, Australia, Thailand, or G.C.C. (Wherever G.C.C. is)

If this wasn't so much work, it would actually be fun.

Doug

mohrds 09-12-2007 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by svxistentialist (Post 492872)
I wonder if the Russian prices are reasonable?

Joe:)

I just checked subaruparts.com prices for the US switch banks. They range from $78 - $112 each. So about 56-80 EUD each or 1,979 - 2,843 RUB.

Of course, all day long the Russian site was giving me prices which I failed to record, now that I need them, its down....

Anyway I would say between 2000-3000RUB plus shipping.

I would think that any of those units would be available from a European dealership.

Doug

svxistentialist 09-13-2007 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mohrds (Post 492973)
I

BTW: anyone know what a "IMMBI INDICATERI" is? It occupied a switch position in 1996-97 SVXs both LHD and RHD that were NOT bound for the US, Japan, Australia, Thailand, or G.C.C. (Wherever G.C.C. is)

If this wasn't so much work, it would actually be fun.

Doug


I suppose it could be something to do with the alarm, the Immobiliser Indicator maybe? I don't know.

Arthur has a '96 UK Polo. Maybe if it is on his car he may be able to tell us what the function of the switch is.

Joe

NiftySVX 09-13-2007 01:36 PM

That usually stands for immobilizer key system, I didn't know that they had that on SVXs, but when they put in the new computer for OBDII, it would have been the perfect time to add it. I am pretty sure the first Subaru I am aware of in the usa with an immobilizer key was the 05 legacy w/turbo. Correct me if I am wrong

mohrds 09-13-2007 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NiftySVX (Post 493154)
That usually stands for immobilizer key system, I didn't know that they had that on SVXs, but when they put in the new computer for OBDII, it would have been the perfect time to add it. I am pretty sure the first Subaru I am aware of in the usa with an immobilizer key was the 05 legacy w/turbo. Correct me if I am wrong

I thought that some of the ODBII SVXs had an ECON (Economy) button? That's what I was assuming it was.

svxistentialist 09-14-2007 02:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mohrds (Post 493159)
I thought that some of the ODBII SVXs had an ECON (Economy) button? That's what I was assuming it was.

The UK ones had ECON all right Doug, but the button was on the column shifter. The light lit up on the lower line of lights with the clocks.

It could not be that.

Joe:)

mohrds 09-14-2007 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by svxistentialist (Post 493274)
The UK ones had ECON all right Doug, but the button was on the column shifter. The light lit up on the lower line of lights with the clocks.

It could not be that.

Joe:)


Hrrmm...

This is getting crazy. The more I research the more confused I get. I've found more switch bank part numbers and more cover options in the last day.

I think I need to start a thread just to try and decipherer these options.

Doug

svxistentialist 09-14-2007 06:39 AM

Doug

The sensible approach is to take it at literal face value.

My guess or bet if you like is it is connected to an auto-arming immobiliser. I suspect if it is lit, this is an indication that the engine is immobilised and you need to plip the button or whatever to get the ignition to start the engine.

Probably a new wiring feature with the later wiring.

Just to elucidate, OBD 11 according to Phil I think, is only fitted to US cars because US legislation required it at that time.

The rest of the world had different OBD diagnostics which were not mapped to the OBD 11 protocols. Possibly the rest of the world got a variant of the Japanese protocols, or a protocol that mapped into upcoming EU legislation, I don't know.

In any event they are different.

This may be why this particular button is wired up as a status indicator.

Just my guess.

Joe:)

mohrds 09-14-2007 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by supertole (Post 492315)
Here it is! My SVX (LHD) has it but it doesn't work :(

What is the switch to the left of the cruise on your car?

The right side switch bank (with headlamp washer) is part number 83001PA190

The left side switch bank is either 83001PA090 or 83001PA250 but I'm not sure yet.

Nobody 10-09-2007 09:09 AM

Haya, just my 10c here. The usual weak point of the headlight washer is pump which stop working after some time. Mine went to heaven year or two ago and I have replaced it with one from old Subaru Forester. Now it is even more powerfull so can wash my windshield as well:-). It was very cheap and easy to do.
As for SW mentioned couple threads ago, I am trying to convince my dealer to give me Windows version with SVX included. Actual Windows versions do not cover such a old junk:-) so need to spent some time to dig in previous versions...
Petr

SURTEESS 09-24-2017 02:46 AM

Re: Headlight Washers
 
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Mine is wired to the headlights (like OEMs) - such that lights have to be on, in order that the washer motor works (no use washing the headlights when you are not even using them!!!).

Electric pump is the same as the Suzuki Vitara or Suzuki Escudo (and about 10% of the SVX price!!) - see last attachment, just need to change the connector.

Since doing the addition of the headlight washer in 2017, my pump has died due to water getting past the seals into the pump/motor magnet area - I would suggest that anyone with the headlight washer they should rotate the motor/pump such that the impeller and hoses are at the lower end of the assembly - nearest the ground (I will be doing that with my replacement Suzuki version).


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