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techy101 03-14-2009 12:41 AM

Techy's engine pull progress thread
 
When I'm done with this engine pull and reseal I'm hoping/planning to put together a full How-To complete with all part numbers and lots of pictures.

In the mean time I've got a whole bunch of pictures I figured I could share with you kind folks.

So, here are a few pictures of what was done tonight. Some are detail pics that will be in the final writeup.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...inePull003.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...inePull009.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...inePull012.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...inePull014.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...inePull025.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...inePull028.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...44ced0a1_b.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...inePull032.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...inePull040.jpg

techy101 03-14-2009 12:42 AM

Re: Techy's engine pull progress thread
 
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...inePull044.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...inePull054.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...inePull057.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...inePull061.jpg

I wonder where my biggest oil leak could be coming from. It couldn't possibly be this
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...inePull041.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...30547715_b.jpg




And finally, here's the cam sprocket that I broke trying to get it off:mad:

There should be another lip on the side closest to the camera
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...inePull067.jpg

Earthworm 03-14-2009 08:31 AM

Re: Techy's engine pull progress thread
 
Nice set of pics. The first time pulling the engine we missed disconnecting one of the solid power steering hoses and bent it lifting the engine out.

stuartracing 03-14-2009 11:58 AM

Re: Techy's engine pull progress thread
 
Excellant post brother....Keep um coming....:D

techy101 03-14-2009 06:28 PM

Re: Techy's engine pull progress thread
 
Some more pictures. I just finished cleaning up the super-mess we created when we were pulling the motor, and then all my tools that had been thrown into one bag for a trip to U Pull R Parts. It turns out that they got a 92 SVX in about a month ago, but it was almost complete. Probably because it's been so darn cold up here until today.

It was a huge mud pit, and I ended up using the door cards as a step stool to stay above the 3" of water that was right in front of the car.

Anyway, here are the pictures. First is a picture of my spoils :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...inePull008.jpg

Here's what a bit of elbow grease and a lot of noxious chemicals can do
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...inePull004.jpg

Engine mounted on the stand
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...inePull005.jpg

And here are pictures of my old motor mounts. They were completely separated, and came off the car like this:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...inePull001.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...inePull002.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...inePull003.jpg

Wikedjuggalo 03-14-2009 06:41 PM

Re: Techy's engine pull progress thread
 
If you wrote a writeup for removing the engine I'd love you........ no homo. Seriously because I need/want to pull the engine in my Barcelona, but not too sure where to start. Seriously please do, I really want do this, I have a plus, no ABS module in the way.

jakea 03-14-2009 07:18 PM

Re: Techy's engine pull progress thread
 
good documentation, the toughest part imo is the ps lines on the crossmember.

techy101 03-14-2009 07:40 PM

Re: Techy's engine pull progress thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jakea (Post 592047)
good documentation, the toughest part imo is the ps lines on the crossmember.

Royal PITA

techy101 03-15-2009 01:16 AM

Re: Techy's engine pull progress thread
 
Well, two steps forward, one step back.

It seems that I broke my second thing. The mass of EGR stuff on the back of the EG33 was rusted to hell and I managed to not only shear of 4 frozen bolts, but also accidentally break a plastic thing that a hose fits over on one of the valves. So I'm working on a way to rectify this problem.

I have a few hoses that will need replacing because they were totally trashed and got cut to remove.

I managed to remove one of the heads tonight, and I think I did it without breaking anything more than the EGR stuff.

I've got a few questions but will put them in a thread in the technical sub-forum where they belong.

Anyway, here are the pictures from today.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ePull002-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ePull003-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ePull010-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ePull011-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ePull013-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ePull015-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ePull016-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ePull018-1.jpg



Motor mount plate before cleaning
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ePull019-1.jpg

After cleaning!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ePull020-1.jpg

techy101 03-15-2009 01:16 AM

Re: Techy's engine pull progress thread
 
My broken EGR stuffs
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...inePull019.jpg

Here you can see the sheared bolts
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...inePull020.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...inePull022.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...inePull018.jpg

techy101 03-15-2009 09:47 PM

Re: Techy's engine pull progress thread
 
Today was nothing too special.

I slept in today and ran some errands. But I did get some work done. I figured I'd get to cleaning the garage out so I can find tools again ;) That took a couple of hours.

Then on to the work
First was cleaning out the throttle body. Made a pretty big difference.

Second, it was on to pulling the other head.

So yeah, here are some pictures.

Throttle body prior to cleaning:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...inePull026.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...inePull027.jpg

Now after cleaning
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...svxday3002.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...svxday3003.jpg



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...svxday3004.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...svxday3005.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...svxday3011.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...svxday3013.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...svxday3015.jpg

techy101 03-15-2009 09:48 PM

Re: Techy's engine pull progress thread
 
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...svxday3024.jpg




http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...svxday3025.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...svxday3026.jpg



Here are some pictures of the exposed clinder on this side of the motor. It also looks pretty darn good
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...svxday3027.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...svxday3028.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...svxday3029.jpg




And the other motor mount before and after cleaning
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...svxday3033.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...svxday3034.jpg



Motor without heads (This is the short block correct?)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...svxday3036.jpg

techy101 03-15-2009 09:48 PM

Re: Techy's engine pull progress thread
 
And the other head stuff
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...svxday3039.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...svxday3040.jpg

Crazy_pilot 03-15-2009 09:58 PM

Re: Techy's engine pull progress thread
 
It's always amazing to see just how good things can look with 17 years of grime cleaned off. Are you going to take the short block down any further, or just refurbish from here?

nsm484 03-16-2009 01:47 AM

Re: Techy's engine pull progress thread
 
Subscribed! Loving the pics. feed us hungry picture viewers more on this!
(one day, Yori will be cleaned like this)

techy101 03-16-2009 01:52 AM

Re: Techy's engine pull progress thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nsm484 (Post 592274)
Subscribed! Loving the pics. feed us hungry picture viewers more on this!
(one day, Yori will be cleaned like this)


I'm glad people are liking the pictures. I'll keep them coming for sure.

I've got a ton more for the writeup, but it would be obscene to try and post them all in here ;) (over 150 so far)

SVXMAN2001 03-16-2009 06:44 AM

Re: Techy's engine pull progress thread
 
Techy, thanks so much for posting all the pics. Couple of questions:

What cleaning products are you using to remove all the dirt and grime?

If you are planning to break down the cylinder head, what tool are you anticipating to use to remove the piston ring clips and piston pins?

Thanks, Chris

techy101 03-16-2009 10:59 AM

Re: Techy's engine pull progress thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SVXMAN2001 (Post 592284)
Techy, thanks so much for posting all the pics. Couple of questions:

What cleaning products are you using to remove all the dirt and grime?

If you are planning to break down the cylinder head, what tool are you anticipating to use to remove the piston ring clips and piston pins?

Thanks, Chris

No problem with the pics.

I'm using Gunk engine brite, Purple Power, and Seafoam for cleaning products. I'm also using steel, brass, and nylon brushes of various sizes.

I was thinking about breaking down the block even farther, but now I'm thinking not. I'm already way over budget and without someone who has done that before helping I think it would be a potential disaster.

Mike621 03-16-2009 12:49 PM

Re: Techy's engine pull progress thread
 
Good work. I went through the same process for my Claret, except that many of the parts went to powdercoating. Now, Im just waiting for them to return so that assembly will be a reality. :o

kwren 03-16-2009 01:20 PM

Re: Techy's engine pull progress thread
 
What is powder coating, someone:confused:

Thanks,
Keith:cool:

1986nate 03-16-2009 01:22 PM

Re: Techy's engine pull progress thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kwren (Post 592330)
What is powder coating, someone:confused:

Thanks,
Keith:cool:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powder_coating

kwren 03-16-2009 03:11 PM

Re: Techy's engine pull progress thread
 
TY <3

Keith:cool:

intellibomb 03-16-2009 08:24 PM

Re: Techy's engine pull progress thread
 
very nice pics.

i recently did this, but i was doing it in the mudpit that you had to endure in picknpull:rolleyes:

the hardest part for me was figuring out how the 2002 wrx clutch connected... other than that the eg33 is straightforward.... soooooo much easier than hondas and toyotas i have worked on.

with all the proper tools, lifts, and a garage, i would dare say that looks like fun!

my mounts looked like that too... my new motor had nice stock mounts tho, but i opted for the group n mounts.

if you are looking for a set of nice stock motor mounts, i am selling some right herrr


good luck ! i know you will enjoy the spoils spoils of your victory

techy101 03-17-2009 01:41 AM

Re: Techy's engine pull progress thread
 
Today was another slow day. Did some cleaning of the timing belt covers, got the damn cranks sprocket off, pulled the oil pump, did some cleaning, put it back on with a new o-ring and front main seal.

Also did some grinding of one of the motor mounts.

To get the crank sprocket off I had to tap the two holes in it and use a steering wheel puller. And after a lot of cleaning it went back on without any trouble whatsoever.

Anyway, here are pictures:

Motor Mount Plate
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...04/day3002.jpg

Clean timing belt covers
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...04/day3004.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...04/day3005.jpg


Steering wheel puller on the crank sprocket
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...04/day3006.jpg

It was pretty rusty
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...04/day3012.jpg

More rust
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...04/day3015.jpg

Oil Pump
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...04/day3017.jpg

After rust removal brigade
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...04/day3020.jpg

Crank Sprocket and the little key thing
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...04/day3023.jpg

Back together
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...04/day3026.jpg

alltrac 03-17-2009 02:10 AM

Re: Techy's engine pull progress thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by techy101 (Post 592462)
Crank Sprocket and the little key thing

That is a Woodruff key.

techy101 03-17-2009 11:45 PM

Re: Techy's engine pull progress thread
 
Here's what I was up to today.

I think I finished up the motor mounts today. I spent most of the day cleaning up the block and heads though. My new head gaskets and other stuff are supposed to be coming in tomorrow (hopefully they'll actually come in on time).

Here are today's pictures

Finished motor mounts:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...05/more012.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...05/more016.jpg



Here are some pictures of before and after cleaning of the heads and block.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...05/more001.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...05/more003.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...05/more002.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...Pullnew012.jpg


After cleaning
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...05/more009.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...Pullnew007.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...Pullnew013.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...05/more007.jpg

techy101 03-17-2009 11:45 PM

Re: Techy's engine pull progress thread
 
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...05/more008.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...05/more006.jpg

pearlm30 03-18-2009 03:24 AM

Re: Techy's engine pull progress thread
 
Great job. I am sure your detailed pictures will help someone in the future.:)
Thank you

SVXRide 03-18-2009 02:10 PM

Re: Techy's engine pull progress thread
 
what have you decided to do with the heads? Are you going to have them checked to make sure that they're perfectly flat?
-Bill

techy101 03-18-2009 08:42 PM

Re: Techy's engine pull progress thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SVXRide (Post 592710)
what have you decided to do with the heads? Are you going to have them checked to make sure that they're perfectly flat?
-Bill


I have decided to take the gamble and just put them back on. We'll see if it was the wrong choice soon enough.


Here are a few more pics. I may be doing more tonight, not sure yet. But I figured I'd toss up a few teasers from todays work.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...206/new003.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...206/new004.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...206/new006.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...206/new013.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...206/new019.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...206/new021.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...206/new022.jpg

SVXMAN2001 03-18-2009 09:19 PM

Re: Techy's engine pull progress thread
 
that is just one sexy engine!

techy101 03-19-2009 01:46 AM

Re: Techy's engine pull progress thread
 
More stuff from tonights work

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...venmore003.jpg

Valve cover gaskets
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...venmore005.jpg

Seals installed
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...venmore006.jpg

Valve cover on
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...venmore007.jpg

Starting to look like an engine again. Just much cleaner
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...venmore008.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...venmore009.jpg

Oil pan removed, prior to cleaning mating surface
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...venmore013.jpg

After cleaning
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...venmore019.jpg


Nasty old seal on the oil pan
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...venmore015.jpg

techy101 03-19-2009 01:48 AM

Re: Techy's engine pull progress thread
 
Well crap!

I just remembered that I forgot to remove the bolt holding the intake cam gears together:mad:

Another "I feel like a dumbass" moment

At least I remembered now and not later.

techy101 03-20-2009 01:01 AM

Re: Techy's engine pull progress thread
 
More work done today. Not as much as I'd hoped, a friend lost her job so I spent a while with her. Friends trump car.


But I got the oil pan put back on, although I think I probably used too much RTV. Hopefully it won't be a problem.

Also removed my bolt from the intake cam gear from last night.

Then it was just putting things back together. Slow going, but I'm making progress. For anyone else doing this, label the hoses. There were a few that I labeled, but most I figured would make sense because of location. Not so much. It's making things take a lot longer.

I couldn't find a plug for the EGR hole in the exhaust manifold, so I finally just cut the pipe and had someone weld it shut.

Oh, and I installed the locking pin in the front passenger half shaft @ the diff. I have had some suspension noise ever since I got the car, and when we got it apart I noticed that that locking pin has been missing since I bought the car:eek: So not cool. It was a pain to get in, but hopefully it'll make things better.

Finally, tomorrow my ebay timing belt kit will be here.


Here are today's pictures:

The offending bolt:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...y%207/7001.jpg

Oil pan on:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...y%207/7002.jpg

Intake Manifold
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...y%207/7003.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...y%207/7007.jpg

My solution for the EGR line on the intake manifold side
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...y%207/7012.jpg

I used high temp silicone to re-attach the little brackets that hold the coil pack wires on.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...y%207/7017.jpg

Starting to come together
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...y%207/7020.jpg

My welded and re-installed EGR thing
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...y%207/7023.jpg

And finally my new locking pin
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...y%207/7027.jpg

redlightningsvx 03-20-2009 04:05 PM

Re: Techy's engine pull progress thread
 
Now would have been a good time to install some thermo spacers on the intake.

Tim 03-20-2009 05:04 PM

Re: Techy's engine pull progress thread
 
Im surprised you didn't paint the intake plenum since it was off, but the engine is coming along very nicely :)

scottsvx 03-20-2009 08:22 PM

Re: Techy's engine pull progress thread
 
Looks really good, nice work! I'm actually doing the exact same thing, but school's making it take about a thousand times longer I anticipated... Anyway I had a couple of questions:
1. I noticed the copper spray-a-gasket, is that really helpful and should it be applied to all gaskets or just the head gaskets?
2. As far as that egr hose off the exhaust manifold, what effect does just plugging the hole have?
3. And you haven't gotten there yet but like you were saying, I was thinking the hoses are going to be a pain. When i took the intake manifold off those egr hoses broke like twigs. So I guess the question is when you break hoses like that, can you just get a hose that has the same specs and cut it to length or do you have to get the oem hoses?

techy101 03-20-2009 10:36 PM

Re: Techy's engine pull progress thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scottsvx (Post 593098)
Looks really good, nice work! I'm actually doing the exact same thing, but school's making it take about a thousand times longer I anticipated... Anyway I had a couple of questions:
1. I noticed the copper spray-a-gasket, is that really helpful and should it be applied to all gaskets or just the head gaskets?
2. As far as that egr hose off the exhaust manifold, what effect does just plugging the hole have?
3. And you haven't gotten there yet but like you were saying, I was thinking the hoses are going to be a pain. When i took the intake manifold off those egr hoses broke like twigs. So I guess the question is when you break hoses like that, can you just get a hose that has the same specs and cut it to length or do you have to get the oem hoses?


1. The copper gasket sealer was recommended to me by the folks over at the local dealer. I used it on the head gaskets and on the intake manifold gaskets, although I didn't take a picture of the intake manifold ones after they were sprayed.

2. I removed the whole EGR system, so to keep exhaust from filling everything up I needed to plug the hole. Don't want a big old exhaust leak in the engine bay!

3. For a few of the hoses (PCV, etc...) that are molded in very odd shapes I have gotten OEM, but for other stuff I just get lengths of hose from the local auto parts store.

kwren 03-20-2009 10:42 PM

Re: Techy's engine pull progress thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by techy101 (Post 592796)
Well crap!

I just remembered that I forgot to remove the bolt holding the intake cam gears together:mad:

Another "I feel like a dumbass" moment

At least I remembered now and not later.

Would be easy to forget:)

You are doing great and much help for all of us!!!

Keith:cool:

techy101 03-20-2009 10:45 PM

Re: Techy's engine pull progress thread
 
Today was a lot of cleaning, and waiting for the nice UPS lady to show up.

My eBay timing belt kit came in and I am very happy with the quality. It was purchased from The Import Experts on ebay (they also have a website). Since they have a brick and mortar store they have a phone number posted on their website. I was able to call and arrange expedited shipping. They were a pleasure to deal with and I would highly recommend them to anyone. (They show as shipping from Washington State)

I am having a hell of a time with the rear main seal. It took up most of my night so I finally gave up.

Here are the pictures:

Cleaner cross-member
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...morenew003.jpg

Clean Power Steering Pump
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...morenew005.jpg

Cleaned up PS and Alt. tension bracket. It was pure black when Is started
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...morenew006.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...morenew007.jpg

New idlers installed
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...morenew010.jpg

Timing Belt on. The orange RTV is to help hold the rear cover in place since a few bolt locations were broken
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...morenew011.jpg

Back together
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...morenew013.jpg

Ready for a new rear-main seal (The little nicks that the flash brought out are only on the outside, the surfaces where the seal goes is perfectly smooth.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...morenew015.jpg


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