104k Mile Motor Using qt.oil/240miles
 

When I bought my SVX it didn't use any oil and didn't need any oil when TomsSVX drove it from Boston to Philly. Now it's using oil like a supercharger was on it. What could make 2 rings bad in less than a thousand miles? :confused:

You'll have to be more specific. Is is the oil usage caused by the engine burning oil or leaking oil? Your reference to rings would lean toward you thinking that the engine is burning oil...yet burning a qt. of oil every 240 miles would mean that you'd probably be leaving a blue cloud of smoke behind you constantly.
-Bill

Is it constantly using that much oil, or did it just do that once? Like Bill said, that much oil being burned constantly would make a nice smoke-show.

We know that the engine has low compression on two cylinders from Bobby (sicksubie) testing it, so something's amis.

Oil can only go a few places. Get burned (nasty blue cloud) or leak.

Have you let the car sit to see if there's any oil spots on the ground after a few days?

there is a good chance the rings were not sealing that well before hand. The added abuse to the car finally cooked them out... There really is no other explanation for it

Tom

There is no oil leaking out of the engine. Sicksubie had the car when it came back from Tom's and he would've made us aware of an outside leak. It is burning the oil and the catch can sicksubie put on isn't showing any oil in the tube. The motor is burning oil we could see when we started the car in NJ. Tom attributed the 2 quarts down when we got back,to him forgetting to put oil in, but it is still burning oil at the same rate. The car also did not have soot sticking to the bumper when the car was picked up.

It was all at once. It was 2 quarts down when we got back from Tom's with soot on the bumper and Tom said he forgot to put oil in, but it continued to burn oil at the same rate, which Tom says is from abuse, but we've been told we'de have to run the 24 hour of Le Mans to burn the rings that quick, less than 1,000 miles.

The car is parked on a white cement floor with no spots on it and everyone has said it was dry, tom put in an engine seal kit.

well like I have stated before, there is no other explanation. The car had no soot on it when you picked it up and there was never a mention of burning oil until you had it for a couple days. When I had it, it had a spurt of oil on start up, thats it... If there was that much oil burning it would literally smoke out the neighborhood.

Tom

I think you would've seen the soot when you drove to NJ like we did when he got back to Boston. What abuse? Nate didn't abuse the car, I was in it with him. He tested the acceleration a few times, but not everyday. Extreme abuse is supercharging one of these motors. How long does a motor last with a supercharger anyway, since you have one for sale? I still haven't received the money order for the transmission you said you sent.

I never saw any soot.

Nate was telling me and everyone else how he was shifting it at 7500rpms, meaning he was killing it to get there

I have not sent the MO I am buying it tomorrow.
Sending a PM now.

Tom

A few days? I was there when Nate called you the same day we got back about it being down 2 quarts. He was checking everything after he was upset about the rear washer, speakers, and transmission mounts not being fixed right and the wheel bearing and ABS not being fixed.

I don't think the engine even goes that high. Nate asked you what to shift at and that's what he had to do, because you didn't do the before-and-after g-tech tests like you said you would.

Seeing that car in person, it was VERY rusty underneath and after the description of how fast you drove on the way home, and how you said it held tight on a ramp at excessive speed (paraphrased because I cannot find the exact post), nothing surprises me.

Your lack of knowledge of the car coupled with your incessant ranting and lack of respect for your car, this forum, and its members pisses me off.

This has been reviewed over and over and I refuse to do it again.

The rear washer was tested with the rear wiper, the motor for the fluid pump was activated so I assumed it was working. Check the line for kinks, I bet you if you get the kinks out of the line, the fluid come right out.

The speakers were hooked up using everything Nate gave me and nothing more or less. There is no doubt in my mind. You plug the clip into the stock harness and then plug the other end into the speakers... Its not hard and I would have made my life even harder if I had not used them. So the speakers may have been bad of the stereo may have been bad. The speakers were installed as Nate had asked

The transmission mount was the one that came with the transmission Nate bought!! Since everyone needs a lesson in clutch use nowadays, I suggested a harder mount from GroupN.

I was told not to do any further work on the car than what I had originally hired for. So I did not do anything more. Thats why the car still has bad wheel bearings and the ABS is still not working right. I do not work for free.

I am done with this, this has been done time and time again and I don't need the bull****

Tom

Looks like burning oil is the prime suspect. I'd still expect a big blue cloud if you're going through 1 qt/240 miles. Have you had anyone drive behind you to see if you get smoke 1. all the time, 2. on acceleration, or 3. on deceleration (hard on the gas and then let off all at once making engine vacuum spike up). Each "option" will tell you something different about the root cause of the oil usage. Sorry you're having issues with the car, but burning oil is one of those things that can show up anytime after ~100k miles (sooner is you're really unlucky).
-Bill

It has blue smoke on starting and I can see blue smoke in other peoples' headlights when accelearting. I haven't checked on deceleration. There is soot on the bumper rather quickly. 4 cylinders are said to have good compression. Why would 2 go all of a sudden.

That's funny, Tom said only the exhaust was rusty. We drove 6 hours without a radar detector and didn't get pulled over once. 6 hours is real fast from Philly to Boston, huh?

considering it took me 7.5hrs to get there... yes

the exhaust was rusty, but I showed Nate these picutres to show him the rest

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h2...X/DSCF0340.jpg

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h2...X/DSCF0334.jpg

Tom

Alright, before things go too out of hand here:

Is the purpose of this thread to try and figure out this oil situation, or to attack Tom?

Let's try to keep it productive, there has been enough e-ranting about this already.

:eek:Is the car undercoated/oil sprayed? That's what my suspension looks like, but with the undercoating and oil spray underneath the body itself is untouched. If there's no rust protection under that car it's in trouble.

Wow, I never saw these. So does this mean the car is not worth restoring?

I just want to know how this happened. I have $13k into the car and it ran better when I paid $2,200 for it.

Then why did Kristin just send me a text message telling me it was not her posting and that she wants her name banned so you cannot use it?

Tom

I don't know....
 

Maybe driving the tar out of it with the oil level low might not be cool??:confused:

Just a thought

So you complain about all these things on your car, yet you've never looked under it?

Well wasting the money on huge tires that didnt fit and lambo doors from a company who probably hasnt actually seen an SVX didn't help.

From the point of view of someone with similar rust:

If the body's good, everything else is replaceable, often with better stuff.

If the floorpan of the body is in trouble, it will cost you thousands, many thousands, to restore it.

Well Tom, you can call me right now 978 382 1317, Kristin. I don't appreciate you lying about me sending you a text message.

Thanks for the info. I don't know what to look for.

good, then you got the text I just sent back saying you can expect nothing from me. *done with these shenanigans*

Tom

I really didn't expect any input from Tom or want any input from him when he lies about me texting him to get me banned from my computer and sends me a pm blackmailing me:

I am growing tired of this and like I had said, if you want the money order, I never want to hear or read about this car again

Tom

thats because I was willing to help her, not you Nate

Tom

Actually, I saw the text.

If the car has a good history of rust-proofing the underside will be good. If you can get the car in the air look at the bottom. If it's undercoated there will be a thick, tar-like coating over the whole bottom of the car. If it's been oil sprayed regularly there will be oil on the bottom. My car has the thick tar-ish undercoating and the floor is almost perfect, except for one spot where it was scraped over a bump and the coating removed. That spot has surface rust.

Any garage should be able to help you with this. Just go in and ask them to put the car on a lift so you can check the underside for rust. Make sure they will let you come out and look for yourself, some shops are very touchy about customers on the garage floor.

Aren't you Tom's partner at AWD, Inc.? So now we know you're both liars and making useless posts on my thread.

Thanks again, I just had the car painted and will go back to them. What is the best coating to ask them to put on and where? I'm still wondering what I should do about the oil burning. Should I just drive it until it breaks down?

You just texted me you're not paying me without even calling and talking to me like a man. Now you stole my transmission.

okay, constant oil burning points directly at bad rings, sorry. For what it's worth, several members of the Network have had at least one, if not two, cylinders "go away" after aggressive normally aspirated use. Not having gone back in the threads to see which cylinders in your engine are suspect, I'm going to guess they're the same cylinders as others have had issues with.
-Bill

Yes I did. Thanks for talking to me, but you know Nate's not posting these and you know you had no intention of paying for or sending my transmission back.