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CorSVXette 09-22-2007 04:10 AM

Alcyone?
 
Hi. I am an SVX newbie so don't laugh when I ask this question. I don't know much about the history of the car. I notice that some people list their SVX"s as "Alcyone". Do they all say that on the taillight panel or that a special version? Mine also says that. Is there a web site that I can look at to read about the history of the car. Thanks.
Paul.

Speedklix 09-22-2007 05:47 AM

lame man, if you send me the panel I can fix it for you

Speedklix 09-22-2007 05:51 AM

kidding, but go a head and send it if you want to swap.
it is the Japan version of the car. many US guys swap the panel in the tail lights to keep people guessing "what the heck is it!"

I'm sure there must be a history page made up, someone else will probably know where it is. anyway, welcome to the network

Hocrest 09-22-2007 06:41 AM

Here are the basics...

Subaru is named after the cluster of stars "Pleades" (sp?) Alcyone is the brightest star of the cluster. In some countries it is a name they started using for their "Flagship" cars starting in about 1985 when they introduced the XT, it then continued with the XT-Turbo, XT6 and SVX. It hasn't been used since then.

Rumor has it that at one point it was going to be their high end brand, like Honda has Acura, Toyota has Lexus... But that never happened...

CorSVXette 09-22-2007 06:43 AM

where did you get the idea that I wanted to get rid of it or swap it??? I just wanted to know what it meant.

CorSVXette 09-22-2007 06:45 AM

Thanks Dave!

Seraphinwolf 09-22-2007 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 494915)
where did you get the idea that I wanted to get rid of it or swap it??? I just wanted to know what it meant.

He was teasing. Basicly I wouldn't doubt that he wants one cause people have to import them from Japan or wait for people to bring them back on trips to Japan. I like that mine says Subaru but I would like the Alcyone hood emblem for mine. It's just one of those things some people do to set their cars a little different from everyone else's.
You wanted history though so here you go. Wikipedia has one of the best acumulations of knowlege on our cars. http://wikicars.org/en/Subaru_Alcyone_SVX Good luck with your "Alcyone".
-Gaddis

CorSVXette 09-22-2007 08:13 AM

you mentioned a different hood emblem? The Alcyone has a different one?

Landshark 09-22-2007 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 494928)
you mentioned a different hood emblem? The Alcyone has a different one?

Yep. teh horns!

http://www.subaru-svx.net/photos/fil...hark/26988.JPG

http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.c...es_1964_254477

Speedklix 09-22-2007 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seraphinwolf (Post 494925)
He was teasing. Basicly I wouldn't doubt that he wants one

:domo: ^What he said^ :domo:

CorSVXette 09-22-2007 11:12 AM

Now mine don't have the horns. So something was changed. The back panels says Alcyone but I do not have the horns. Any other way to tell if it a true Alcyone?

Landshark 09-22-2007 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 494944)
Now mine don't have the horns. So something was changed. The back panels says Alcyone but I do not have the horns. Any other way to tell if it a true Alcyone?

someone bought a JDM light panel and put it on your car.

unless it is a right-hand drive import from Japan (which i highly doubt), you have a regular USDM SVX, with a JDM part.

shotking 09-22-2007 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 494944)
Now mine don't have the horns. So something was changed. The back panels says Alcyone but I do not have the horns. Any other way to tell if it a true Alcyone?

Alcyone=SVX, SVX=Alcyone. It was just a different name used for a different country. A better one IMHO sounds a hell of alot classier.

CorSVXette 09-22-2007 03:02 PM

Is it possible that the hood was changed that is why it does not have the "horn" emblem? There must be some other way to tell if it is an Alcyone or not. Maybe by vin# or some other # on the car?

crazyhorse 09-22-2007 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shotking (Post 494946)
Alcyone=SVX, SVX=Alcyone. It was just a different name used for a different country. A better one IMHO sounds a hell of alot classier.

+1
I honestly believe that the SVX MAY have sold better if it had been brought over with the full Alcyone treatment. Alcyone has a MUCH better ring to it, but alas, most "upmarket" cars don't have names, they have "designations". The relative success of the Legacy, and SVX succeded in moving Subaru upmarket here in the 'States. Rather than create a new brand name, using the SVX as a rallying flag, they took the current name & went "uptown". You don't have to stretch much to see where they were heading...Legacy...Legend....HMMMMMMMM:cool:

shotking 09-22-2007 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Landshark (Post 494945)
someone bought a JDM light panel and put it on your car.

unless it is a right-hand drive import from Japan (which i highly doubt), you have a regular USDM SVX, with a JDM part.

I just wanted to repost this in case ya missed it Paul.;):)

Crazy_pilot 09-22-2007 03:46 PM

The "horns" emblem is a JDM (Japan Domestic Market) part. The only way a North American car has one is if the owner bought one and put it on, or the car is a JDM car imported straight from Japan. The standard North American hood badge is the 6-start Subaru emblem.

Example: I bought the JDM hod badge a couple months ago an installed it on my car. Before that I had the standard Subaru badge.

There's no such thing as a "true" Alcyone. The SVX, no matter where it's from, is an Alcyone. The Japanese model has a couple more gizmos, but that's it.

huck369 09-22-2007 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 494974)
Is it possible that the hood was changed that is why it does not have the "horn" emblem? There must be some other way to tell if it is an Alcyone or not. Maybe by vin# or some other # on the car?


If it were a "true" Alcyone,(true just meaning a JDM one) the steering wheel would be on the right side of the car....so your car is NOT a JDM Alcyone, it is a USDM Subaru SVX with a Alcyone tail light panel.....does that explain it?;)

CorSVXette 09-22-2007 03:57 PM

So only a "true" one would have the "horn" emblem on the hood?

Cynic 09-22-2007 04:08 PM

All SVX's are "true Alcyone's". In Japan, they called the car Alcyone SVX, in the US just SVX. All were made by Subaru. In US, the taillight said Subaru and it had the star hood emblem. In Japan, taillight said Alcyone and it had the horn hood emblem. The only major difference was : are you sitting in the right hand seat or left hand seat to drive? Some owners change their US taillight and hood emblem to the one that says Alcyone. :)

Crazy_pilot 09-22-2007 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 494988)
So only a "true" one would have the "horn" emblem on the hood?

My SVX was built in the States and sold in Canada. It has the horns emblem because I bought one from a member here and stuck it on my hood. You can buy one too, I believe he still has some available. Pop off the Subaru bage, stick on the SVX horns badge, and voila, as true an Alcyone as you could wish for. Except the lack of steering wheel on the right side.

Speedklix 09-22-2007 04:14 PM

plenty of cars here have the horns and the rear panel. but if you aren't getting into the car from the right hand side to drive it, then you are driving an all USDM SVX

CorSVXette 09-22-2007 04:15 PM

Thanks for straightening that out for me. I must sound like a REAL SVX Rookie! Do you remember who has the hood emblems for sale?

shotking 09-22-2007 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 494995)
Thanks for straightening that out for me. I must sound like a REAL SVX Rookie! Do you remember who has the hood emblems for sale?

Its ok, the only way to learn is ask.:)

Crazy_pilot 09-22-2007 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 494995)
Thanks for straightening that out for me. I must sound like a REAL SVX Rookie! Do you remember who has the hood emblems for sale?

Here's the thread:

http://www.subaru-svx.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39678

ensteele 09-22-2007 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 494988)
So only a "true" one would have the "horn" emblem on the hood?

If you want to see a JDM Alcyone, Click on this link. Welcome to the site. :)

CorSVXette 09-23-2007 04:12 AM

Thanks Earl. By the way, whats the deal with that "Air Purifier"? Was that an option? Does it work good? Can I buy one and install it? Is it worth it? or is it just an expensive looking object?
Paul.

ridered777 09-23-2007 09:17 AM

While we're on this topic, I've got a question that's been burning a hole in my skull lately about Alcyone.

How is it pronounced? Everytime I meet someone who "knows" how to pronounce it, they pronounce it differently than the last person to "know" how to pronounce it... if that makes sense.:o

My guess: AL-SEE-OWN. Probably laughable, I know.:lol: But I'm looking to get it on a license plate, and if the correct spelling is taken already in my state, I want to know how it's pronounced so I know which letters I can drop.

ensteele 09-23-2007 09:29 AM

I did a search (works great) of this for the many past threads on this. This thread is the best one. It also has a wave sound bite on how it sounds. Read and find out all about it. :) :)

b3lha 09-23-2007 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 495098)
By the way, whats the deal with that "Air Purifier"? Was that an option? Does it work good? Can I buy one and install it? Is it worth it? or is it just an expensive looking object?
Paul.

I have one (in my genuine JDM Alcyone;)) and it works great when you're stuck behind a truck that's belching out diesel smoke. I imagine it's almost a necessity in cities with heavy traffic pollution and smog problems. The downsides are: the fan is quite noisy and it does rattle a bit when you are driving on uneven roads.

I very much doubt you'll find one for sale, and it would probably be expensive. Incidentally, Although these are in the JDM Options catalogue, I think they were dealer fitted, rather than factory fitted because there are no connections for it in the wiring loom. The wiring is tacked-in aftermarket style.

If air quality is a problem for you, I've seen similar devices on a smaller scale that you can plug into the cigarette lighter socket.

ensteele 09-23-2007 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 495098)
Thanks Earl. By the way, whats the deal with that "Air Purifier"? Was that an option? Does it work good? Can I buy one and install it? Is it worth it? or is it just an expensive looking object?
Paul.

The Air Purifier is an option on the Japanese Domestic Market (JDM) cars. It can be purchased for $500 or so, but must be imported from Japan. I don't think it is worth it for around here unless you are a heavy smoker. As an add on, it would be how you described it - an expensive looking object. :)

b3lha 09-23-2007 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crazy_pilot (Post 494982)
The Japanese model has a couple more gizmos, but that's it.

A couple more gizmos like...
1) VTD AWD system
2) Better Diff ratio
3) Ventilated rear brakes
4) Different engine tuning
5) Active 4 wheel steer (on some models)
6) Different climate control

Given the choice, would anyone pick the US model over the JDM one?

CorSVXette 09-23-2007 11:36 AM

Thanks. I'll stick to the $5.00 air freshener as opposed to the $500.00 one.

ridered777 09-23-2007 05:24 PM

Thanks Earl. I can always count on you for info!

And search doesn't work for me. Ever. :rolleyes: :p

For anyone not wanting to find it elsewhere, it's "Al-SEE-OWN-EE

shotking 09-23-2007 05:36 PM

Damn ive been calling it Al-Si-Own-ee for the last coupla years:tard:

It's Just Eric 09-23-2007 07:55 PM

svxcesse's locker hass the corerect pronounciation in a sound file...It's "Al-Sigh-Knee"

ensteele 09-23-2007 08:03 PM

And if you go to the link that I posted, it has the same wave file. :D

ensteele 09-23-2007 08:09 PM

This is from the thread that I refer to.

It is pronounced: el-SIGH-uh-nee

svxcess 09-23-2007 09:39 PM

And the direct link to that wav file can be accessed by clicking HERE

.

svxistentialist 09-24-2007 01:35 PM

Well, if you want to be absolutely true to the home market pronounciation, this particular way of saying it is nothing like the Japanese.

I was speaking to some Japanese gentlemen on a trade stand in Birmingham last January, and the way they pronounced it sounded to me like:

arry -yoo-shee-oh-neh

Now I don't know any Japanese, and maybe Nomake Wan can correct me on that, but the above is what it sounded like to me.

Joe:)


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