Re: NO MORE CLICK click CLICK START..ONLY START! starter relay
 

Got the click in my project car. Didn't click before the swap. Decided to apply the band-aid fix again since it worked perfectly the last time.

Re: NO MORE CLICK click CLICK START..ONLY START! starter relay
 

Well... It seems as though the relay didn't fix my particular problem. I finally was able to have the 'Click, click, click' issue manifest itself when the hood was open and my trusty mechanic standing in front of the car. I appear to have a starter solenoid issue.

Re: NO MORE CLICK click CLICK START..ONLY START! starter relay
 

Ask your mechanic to fit a relay to the starter solenoid, as shown here.

http://svxworldforums.com/forum3/3422.html

Harvey.

Re: NO MORE CLICK click CLICK START..ONLY START! starter relay
 

So after ordering 4 starters from different venders none seeming to be the right part. Noob mistake, turns out I needed one for an 04 WRX. Got her all fixed and now my rear bearing seems to be going out.

Re: NO MORE CLICK click CLICK START..ONLY START! starter relay
 

Where do I look next after replacing the relay and the starter switch? I have a test light hooked up to the wire going to the starter, and I'm not getting anything...

If the key is turned to run, and a jump a wire from batt + to the starter, it starts right up, so it is somewhere between the key and the starter. What else is there beside the relay and the ignition switch?

Re: NO MORE CLICK click CLICK START..ONLY START! starter relay
 

neutral safety switch

Re: NO MORE CLICK click CLICK START..ONLY START! starter relay
 

If you are getting nothing, check the wiring at the gearbox inhibitor switch. Try it in Netural, the Park contacts may be burnt.
If you are getting something, you may be best to do the Bosch relay mod. to prevent all that current from burning up all the switches.

Have a look here for how to do it.

http://svxworldforums.com/view_post.php?post_id=35308

Harvey.

Re: NO MORE CLICK click CLICK START..ONLY START! starter relay
 

Sorry, I either missed a word or typed the wrong word. I'm getting nothing out to the starter when I turn the key.

I was thinking earlier tonight that I want to jump the pins on the trans harness like we do for MT swaps tomorrow and see if that the issue.
Does anyone know where the shift indicator falls in the sequence between the key and the starter??

I'll also have my SVX here tomorrow, so I can pin out the wires step by step and compare.

Re: NO MORE CLICK click CLICK START..ONLY START! starter relay
 

It has been so long that I used the bypass mode (bandaid), I forgot there was a starter problem:rolleyes:

Re: NO MORE CLICK click CLICK START..ONLY START! starter relay
 

"I'm getting nothing out to the starter when I turn the key.".
It is the small wire to the solenoid that has nothng?

The sequence is, the key, security relay, Inhibitor switch on the box, starter solenoid.
Don't forget to try it in N, it case the P has a problem.

Harvey.

Re: NO MORE CLICK click CLICK START..ONLY START! starter relay
 

Yes, the small wire has nothing when i turn the key. I've tried a trouble light and a voltage meter, nothing.

I've tried in P and N, and the dash indicator lights are accurate, but I think the contacts for the indicator lights are different than the contacts for the safety switch, so I'll jump it and see if that let's it crank. If so, I'll either replace the indicator switch or just jump it...

Re: NO MORE CLICK click CLICK START..ONLY START! starter relay
 

If you get no voltage at all, it must have an open circuit some where.
It would not matter how dirty or bad the contacts get, it would show some voltage.
Something unplgged?

Harvey.

Re: NO MORE CLICK click CLICK START..ONLY START! starter relay
 

OK, that was a lot of wasted effort for a simple fix. The 12 pin connector from the shift indicator was together, but not tightly. So some pins were making contact, but the vital ones didn't.

Yeah well, now she has a new relay and key switch, so it should be trouble free starting for a while.

Re: NO MORE CLICK click CLICK START..ONLY START! starter relay
 

Easy one Dave.:D

Harvey.

Re: NO MORE CLICK click CLICK START..ONLY START! starter relay
 

So I'm hoping this is my problem. My SVX is sitting in a parking lot a few miles from home. Stopped there for two minutes to buy some soda. When I got back there was no start. Cigarettle lighter voltage meter read okm but tried a jump just in case. Still no good. Tried looking fo the relay but couldn't find it, made miyself too dizzy hanging upsdie down, but maybe I'll have better luck in the morning. There is a NAPA store a block away. I'm hoping they have the relay.

or.. my SVX is telling me it doesn't want to go to Pocono tomorrow

Re: NO MORE CLICK click CLICK START..ONLY START! starter relay
 

Jelly,
Did you check for corrosion on the battery terminal? Mine left me stranded last year, wouldn't even stay running when jumped. After cleaning the corrosion off the terminal it started right up and ran fine.

Re: NO MORE CLICK click CLICK START..ONLY START! starter relay
 

I need to do this

Re: NO MORE CLICK click CLICK START..ONLY START! starter relay
 

Located here. Secured with a single bolt that you should only have to loosen to get the relay out.

Re: NO MORE CLICK click CLICK START..ONLY START! starter relay
 

Found the relay finally. Problem is with my blood pressure the underside of the dash looks nothing like the pictures. It's all swirly black with white spots under there. Napa/tunnesens had the relay but it was a no go. Fortunately it turned out to be th starter. With the remote start system I feared having to work through that wiring mess. Picked a starter up from auto zone let my mechanic swap it and I'm good to go... Except now the chwck engine light is on with an O2 sensor code. Mutter. As least I should be able to do the track day tomorrow.

Re: NO MORE CLICK click CLICK START..ONLY START! starter relay
 

The left o2 Sensor wiring runs down right by the starter. He possibly bumped the connector and it came undone?

Re: NO MORE CLICK click CLICK START..ONLY START! starter relay
 

P0147 O2sensor heater circuit Bank 1 sensor 3 - which one is that?

/nm

Re: NO MORE CLICK click CLICK START..ONLY START! starter relay
 

My starter has the same issue.. Too cheap to replace mine, so i just click click click click click til the sol engages lol.

I tried the relay first, and it was a no go.

Re: NO MORE CLICK click CLICK START..ONLY START! starter relay
 

Yep! It's semi-embarassing in public, but when people stare at me, I give them the "One sec" sign, and when it catches finally..I wink at'em and leave.

The females love it ;)

Re: NO MORE CLICK click CLICK START..ONLY START! starter relay
 

Be sure your battery is in good shape and fully charged, with clean and solid connections, and switch off lights and accessories, climate control, even the CD player, before you turn the key. Works for me (almost) every time.

dcb

Re: NO MORE CLICK click CLICK START..ONLY START! starter relay
 

If you have replaced the Security relay and still have the problem, then do fit the Bosch relay to the starter solenoid. Simple and affective.:)

http://svxworldforums.com/view_post.php?post_id=35308

Harvey.

Re: NO MORE CLICK click CLICK START..ONLY START! starter relay
 

Quick question to anyone who might read this, would my problem be the inhibitor relay of my car has power, then when I go to start it I get nothing? Even with a brand new battery it does the same thing. Then sometimes jumping it or jiggling around with the ignition switch it will start..

Re: NO MORE CLICK click CLICK START..ONLY START! starter relay
 

I had to do the band aid fix. Do what is suggested here and also if need be had the relay as suggested in the other fix.

Re: NO MORE CLICK click CLICK START..ONLY START! starter relay
 

Old post still good
My car has started the intermitting no start CLICK CLICK CLICK VROOM. Seems if I charge the battery it is better for a week or so. I only drive it 2 miles between starts, so I suspect I am not adding a lot of charge into the battery. The battery gets weaker after each days run. Looked at the relay fix in the SEARCH engine. ( yes some of use that feature still) wondering since I do not have an automatic trans. Is the Bandaid fix still necessary? I will try the new Bosh relay 1st.

Re: NO MORE CLICK click CLICK START..ONLY START! starter relay
 

I recommend Harvey's Bosch relay mod. Tried replacing the ignition switch and under dash relay on my silver SVX, to no avail. The relay mod totally eliminated the problem.

dcb

Re: NO MORE CLICK click CLICK START..ONLY START! starter relay
 

I can't find a Complete diagram of it exactly. Now mind you I no longer have an automatic so the N P is not there either. The inhibitor relay is not there either ( I don't think it is )
If I go to a Mechanic he will need exact instructions. I see the pictures but do not understand it completely. B/Y wire is original blue wire is 12v power. Black wire goes to ground and then what? What relay terminals go to what wire?
I searched for the diagram. After searchin for quite a while i found it . To help people to find it I am reposting it here

Re: NO MORE CLICK click CLICK START..ONLY START! starter relay
 

Here is a simpler diagram.

Re: NO MORE CLICK click CLICK START..ONLY START! starter relay
 

Dotted line was missing on the 1st diagram and I had to Assume that was implied but not stated. THANK U !

Re: NO MORE CLICK click CLICK START..ONLY START! starter relay
 

I found a relay attached to the steering column. My relay is a. IR 3315 gas 3 wires going to it. It is only held with a sheet metal screw. Could this not be it?
I believe it says Mitsubishi on it . Location is correct. What are the wire colors coming off it?

Re: NO MORE CLICK click CLICK START..ONLY START! starter relay
 

Is this it?
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...ps619a20ee.jpg

Re: jump the start cut relay pins
 

If the starter cut relay is suspect (and there is at least 10 other possible reasons for the click, click) foremost is the condition of the battery and connectors, starter solenoid, starter, inhibitor switch,(which doesn't fail all that much), although, if maybe so, try starting in neutral, if no problem then move on.
Remove the start cut relay and jump the '2 straight through' pins (I think 85 and 35 on the relay) with two spade connectors and a short piece of 14 gauge wire. If your security system does not work (and most of them don't) it doesn't matter anyway. This at least eliminates a potential problem component.

Re: NO MORE CLICK click CLICK START..ONLY START! starter relay
 

The relay mod doesn't involve the existing relay under the dash; instead, you'll be adding a supplemental relay under the hood. I would encourage anyone experiencing this problem to forget trouble-shooting and speculating. Just do the "upgrade" and see what happens.

dcb

Re: NO MORE CLICK click CLICK START..ONLY START! starter relay
 

That did not answer my question! Is that the right relay? I will do the mod if the under dash does not improve my condition. I have only had it click click on 3 separate occasions.

Re: NO MORE CLICK click CLICK START..ONLY START! starter relay
 

That was the wrong relay. After turning on the turn sig I found
Out that is the flasher. I have found it. Mine is way up further
See att

Re: The click click is fixed, Add a start relay
 

Short story, Mount and wire up a starter relay (as pictured)
Simply, Connect the starter solenoid wire to #86 on the relay.
Connect fused 12V to #30 on the relay.
Connect from the negative battery terminal to #85 on the relay.
Connect #87 to the starter solenoid.
and that's it.
Long story. The service manual reads that the starter needs 11 volts, well why not 12V? I had 11.5 volts at the starter solenoid wire and still click click freakin click.
((special note)) *Be sure to cut off the old connector to the start solenoid and strip the wire real nice and crip on an insulated female slide connector, plug that into a male slide connector and wire that goes to the relay, so if ever one wants to go back to the factory arrangement, just disconnect from the from the male connector and connect back to the solenoid.
Be sure to also,crip down the slide connector a little so it grabs the solenoid terminal real tight.
Be sure to use at least 16 gauge wire and 12 gauge wire from (fused)12v from the battery to the relay and from the relay to the starter solenoid.
Be sure to use the proper ring terminals at the battery. A female slide terminal at the solenoid wire and use good wire crimpers with wide teeth, so you get a real good crip. Most of the wire crimpers available aren't very good, because their teeth are to narrow and don't grab the wire well enough.
I also added a hidden security switch as a theft teterant.
I see where someone had wired up a start relay, I wasn't all that thrilled with the install so, after I thought it though some, I came up with my own. Problem fixed, I hope this helps someone.

Re: NO MORE CLICK click CLICK START..ONLY START! starter relay
 

You can mount the relay near the starter. Hook up the 12v from the starter post and the ground on the firewall.