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WestCoastSVX 04-27-2009 11:19 AM
Re: What were they thinking???
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SVXMAN2001 (Post 599053)
I was thinking of getting a bra for my car to protect the new paint from stone chips and what not, but now that I see what it actually looks like...I am having second thoughts.
That's actually not an official Subaru SVX bra, some cheap aftermarket one. The real SVX bra actually fits and follows the lines much better.

I agree though, bras are more trouble then they're worth. If you don't follow a pretty strict cleaning regime (including removing and cleaning every time you wash the car) they can do more harm then good. Plus they never improve the looks of a car.

I'd rather just get a touch up on the bumper and hood every 5-10 years. Depends where you drive though I guess, my car has 213K and still doesn't have enough chips that it's even noticeable.

mikecg 04-27-2009 11:34 AM
Re: What were they thinking???
 
I've seen alot worse.

Green1995SVX 04-27-2009 12:19 PM
Re: What were they thinking???
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lhopp77 (Post 599070)
There were actually FOUR models in 94. In addition to the above there is an LE model which was the bottom of the line. It did not have ABS breaks, but was pretty much the same as the L except for that. I had a 94 (now my granddaus) LE with a sunroof like that. It was Subaru dealer installed when the car was new and cost quite a bit more than than $99. Actually in some ways I liked it better than the stock. The only problem was a very high speeds (over 100 ;) ) the wind passing over the top would suck it up slightly and you could hear air.

I think this is either an L or LS as the seat pattern is slightly different from my original seats which I changed for a new set of leathers.

This is also and earlier model 94 as it has automatic belts and no passenger airbag.

He has installed something--probably some weird lights or something--a nonstandard switch on the center console.

Lee
Lee-

The L models don't have ABS in 94.

SURTEESS 04-27-2009 01:28 PM
Re: What were they thinking???
 
Yuk - I hate Bras (on cars) - ran with mine for a week about 10 years ago, took it off to wash car, only to find that the leading edge of the bonnet paint had gone through to the undercoat!!!.
($200 later it was fixed like new again)

So now I only put mine on for shows, it sits in the box all the other days.

Steve (1 OF 1)

lhopp77 04-27-2009 04:55 PM
Re: What were they thinking???
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Green1995SVX (Post 599083)
Lee-

The L models don't have ABS in 94.
I won't argue that point in detail as I have never owned or even inspected and L model, but I think you might want to check that against the actual VIN of the car. I honestly "think" that the L does have ABS and if it does not have then it will have a "2" in the 7th position of the VIN designating it as an LE model.

Now you have my interest up if there is anyone out there that has a L model ("3" in 7th VIN position) without ABS I would like to hear about it. ;)

Lee

Green1995SVX 04-27-2009 04:56 PM
Re: What were they thinking???
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lhopp77 (Post 599115)
I won't argue that point in detail as I have never owned or even inspected and L model, but I think you might want to check that against the actual VIN of the car. I honestly "think" that the L does have ABS and if it does not have then it will have a "2" in the 7th position of the VIN designating it as an LE model.

Now you have my interest up if there is anyone out there that has a L model ("3" in 7th VIN position) without ABS I would like to hear about it. ;)

Lee
Lee-

I've done extensive research on this. The LE model designates it has having one airbag and passive seatbelts. :)

lhopp77 04-27-2009 08:07 PM
Re: What were they thinking???
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Green1995SVX (Post 599117)
Lee-

I've done extensive research on this. The LE model designates it has having one airbag and passive seatbelts. :)
Now I will argue this point. The dual airbags and manual belts had nothing to do with the model, but only when they were manufactured. Early models had singles and automatic belts while later year production had manual and dual bags. :p

I will wait for someone to come up with an L model that did not have ABS. :)

Lee

mikecg 04-28-2009 09:38 AM
Re: What were they thinking???
 
Good grief. I have a 1994 that was FWD, without ABS, 1 airbag, autoseat belts and no sunroof. I'll get my VIN tonight and we can decode it and see if its an L, LE, or LS.



Then I can fix my signiture line to be accurate.

lhopp77 04-28-2009 09:43 AM
Re: What were they thinking???
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikecg (Post 599196)
Good grief. I have a 1994 that was FWD, without ABS, 1 airbag, autoseat belts and no sunroof. I'll get my VIN tonight and we can decode it and see if its an L, LE, or LS.



Then I can fix my signiture line to be accurate.
A six pack says it has a "2" in the 7th VIN position. :)

Lee

mikecg 04-28-2009 09:46 AM
Re: What were they thinking???
 
OK according to this site. http://www.cars101.com/subaru_svx.ht...4%20SVX%20Info I have an L. LS came with ABS. There was no LE in 94.

lhopp77 04-28-2009 09:48 AM
Re: What were they thinking???
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikecg (Post 599202)
OK according to this site. http://www.cars101.com/subaru_svx.ht...4%20SVX%20Info I have an L. LS came with ABS. There was no LE in 94.
You will lose that bet. There WAS and IS a 94 LE model.

Lee

mikecg 04-28-2009 09:51 AM
Re: What were they thinking???
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lhopp77 (Post 599203)
You will lose that bet. There WAS and IS a 94 LE model.

Lee
I didn't say the site was correct, just that it said that. Of course we all know the internet is never wrong. :rolleyes: lol



Kely's Blue Book, also, only lists models as L, LS, and LSi.

lhopp77 04-28-2009 10:09 AM
Re: What were they thinking???
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikecg (Post 599204)
I didn't say the site was correct, just that it said that. Of course we all know the internet is never wrong. :rolleyes: lol



Kely's Blue Book, also, only lists models as L, LS, and LSi.
First, there are numerous errors on that site.

Second, the Subaru Service Manual AND Parts Manuals list an LE and is shown in the VIN interpretation charts in the manuals.

I am looking at my 94 Supplement to the Service Manual (Subaru published of course) and if there is a "2" in the 7th VIN position it is an LE or a "3" in that position indicates an L model.

Continuing---starting in 94 a "3" in the 8th position indicates Single SRS airbag and passive constraint and a "5" in that position indicates Dual SRS airbags and manual belts.

Lee

Mike621 04-28-2009 10:26 AM
Re: What were they thinking???
 
I agree that there is an LE for 94.

I will say firsthand that I have seen multiple 94 L models without ABS, one being the parts car we kept the front clip from. As for details of these L's Ive seen, one was Laguna Blue, and the other three were Barcelona Red.

lhopp77 04-28-2009 10:38 AM
Re: What were they thinking???
 
I have another question that arises from this discussion and maybe it leads to something different than I have always thought.

WAS the belt system AND dual airbags actually a time of year change OR really associated with models ONLY. Soooooo---next question---does anyone have a 94 L, LS model with ONLY one airbag and passive constraint (automatic) belts?

I have always thought this was a production change during the year that was not model related, but....... I have been wrong a couple times over the years. :p

Lee


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