Re: Who has the lowest mileage SVX?
 

Earl,

It should be noted that the following car was declared a total loss, because of frame damage, after an accident in 2006. I still hold the Florida Certificate of Destruction for the car.

JeffN
LSi
AWD
Ebony Mica
364
10/96
53,000

Re: Who has the lowest mileage SVX?
 

I think the US system tied to the actual year of production is the obvious best method to track vehicles.

I say this because as owners and collectors we are most interested in how a vehicle is equipped and does it have manufacturing engineering improvements done over time. For example--later models had transmission modifications. Change from OBDI to OBDII. Parts interchangeability and applicability. Parts manuals are based on manufacture date.

Its a truly screwed up system that would classify a model year based on first year of registration. That essentially tells you nothing pertinent about the vehicle. ;)
Lee

Re: Who has the lowest mileage SVX?
 

I have that in my records, but missed that it had been totalled. Thanks

Re: Who has the lowest mileage SVX?
 

Joe

I don't know what happened on yours, but I took it off of the list.

I am not sure on Ewie's car. We will need to check that out.

I will now go in and verify the numbers and fix the list. That one was rather quick and I did not have time to look as carefully as I should have.

Re: Who has the lowest mileage SVX?
 

Any of the numbers that have a green highlight have been updated this year. The rest have not.

Re: Who has the lowest mileage SVX?
 

That's a great list Earl, Thanks.

Ewie's number must either come from a different sequence, or else the production date is incorrect, something does not add up.

This list is pretty good to be going on with. I think we could directly contact every member on this list, worldwide, between December and January at the end of the calendar year. The updated information they give us could then be processed and the lists re-sorted for Feb 2011.

Joe

Re: Who has the lowest mileage SVX?
 

EDMSVX 92 should be listed as JDM-VL

Re: Who has the lowest mileage SVX?
 

Only thing I can think of is the RHD vehicles had a different batch/production numbers compared to LHD versions.

Re: Who has the lowest mileage SVX?
 

As per my earlier comment (didn't see your post Joe.. ) I think RHD vehicles had a different sequence.. shouldn't be too hard to figure out by looking at other RHD vehicles on the forum. I'm very confident of the manufacture date being June 1992.. there's a little blue metal tag riveted on the inside of the LH door frame, plus of got the full history of my car from the original owner and Subaru NZ. In short it was built Jun 92, came into NZ Feb/Mar 93 where it sat on "stock" and was sold/registered new in Feb 1994.

One of these days I'll scan all the docs and post them on here for posterity.

Re: Who has the lowest mileage SVX?
 

Ewie, there is no problem and in fact no mistake in yours. This is work in progress and in many cases including this one we see problems that are not there because of insufficient information.

It is not accurate to say there was a different production sequence for RHD cars. All Japanese cars are RHD, and I was noticing that according to the Japanese [aka JDM] production sequence your car might have been manufactured round September 1991 if it was part of the Japanese production series of RHD cars. Which in fact it is not, yours is part of the Australia production series, and they have their own production series of numbers, and based on that sequence June 1992 is correct for your production number.

Apologies, I never doubted your information, it just needed to be placed in the context of the correct production series.

Joe :)

Re: Who has the lowest mileage SVX?
 

Ewie,

Ron [Need for Speed] is pursuing a very worthwhile exercise in determining which Applied Model Code relates to which cars in which markets.

Yours is interesting, it is listed as CXW AU 7E, which implies it is part of the same subset as the Australian market. { Hence your number sequence was different and correct ;)}

In relation to this I have a question for you; you checked out the facts locally and told us that there were 34 SVXes sold into or registered in the NZ market from 92 to 97. Can you confirm that all these 34 cars were produced specifically for the AU/NZ market?

Or put the question another way, is there any possibility that included in the 34 you mention there may have been second hand Japanese cars imported to NZ during that time, and that these second hand imports are included in the number [34] that you say was registered in New Zealand?

Joe

Re: Who has the lowest mileage SVX?
 

For the USA it is, yes. The US has SFAIK the only registration system in the world that is tied to "model years". All other countries use the year the car is first registered on the road as the "birthdate" of the car for legal registration purposes.
Ron's comments that he owns the only two 2010 SVXes in the world is tongue in cheek. If they were to be registered here in Europe the relevant administration would regard the car as belonging to the year of first road registration in the country of origin.

All of these are excellent points Lee, but I would again point out when dealing with cataloging SVXes from across the world, these changes and improvements were applied in different time frames and in different ways. What works for US cars in the database won't necessarily apply to SVXes sold across the world.
[For instance, you mention OBD11. That's a US only system. Japanese and European SVXes got a different OBD upgrade.]

Lee I know Ron is winding me up and probably you are too. See, the marketing concept of "model year" does not apply in any other country except in the US.:eek:

For example in England a newly released car will generally have a life span of around 4 years. Not 1 year, 4 years. When the SVX was released the model remained unchanged for 92,93,94,95. In late 95 early 96 the revised SVXes hit the market. They are notable by their colours [no more black roof] and the wiring is upgraded to EOBD. This model continued until all were sold off, the latest legal registrations being 1998.

Joe

Re: Who has the lowest mileage SVX?
 

I am not "winding you up". I am totally serious that a US based system is by far the best. The others make absolutely no sense. How a vehicle is equipped and parts used is based on WHEN it is manufactured--not when it is SOLD or registered. In the US someone can say, I have a 1970 Ford Mustang Boss--the vehicle sat in a storage unit for 15 years without being registered and driven by the owner for several years. When he advertises it for sale everyone knows exactly how it is equipped and what a 1970 vehicle looks like. It would be dumb as hell to consider it a 1985--don't you think?? :p

I don't claim that our system is perfect that there couldn't be improvements on it, but manfacture date based model years is the ONLY way to go. ;)


Lee

Don't you just love an argument? :)

Re: Who has the lowest mileage SVX?
 

Well,

Per findings in the 'How Many Model' thread, it seems, due to different registration methods across the globe as outlined by members on both sides of the pond, that the only way to properly catagorize SVXes for year/date/registration is per Subaru Applied Model code, A,B,C,D,E,F, which seems to be consistant with every Applied Model except Dan's GCC code of T. T may mean some type of exception or variation from standard, or perhaps that region has no model requirements. Still, for purposes of the lowest mileage single SVX, it is what it is. :)

As for UK AMs, per Joe's Trim Registration thread, there are codes A and B for UK SVX, CXWAK7E, CXWBK7E, so, these are not the same model, unless there is a typo. It appears that this is not a 'A' being sold for multiple years ;)

Re: Who has the lowest mileage SVX?
 

Okay, the NZ cars have a manufacturing date tag, as do the US-spec cars. The Japanese cars do not.

I toured the BMW MINI manufacturing plant in Oxford, summer 05, taken there in my JDM VL. RHD and LHD were built simultaneously on the same line. I believe that after September 1991, when Japanese Domestic Production began on the SVX assembly line, that it is most likely that rhd/lhd cars were built at the same time on the same line, and that batches were according to APPLIED MODEL ABC, etc, and therefore color, as color was associated with model.