Coan
10-31-2010, 01:07 AM
I wanted to start a thread that can easily be referred to for any info related to SVX transmission swaps. I’d like to gather as much info as possible about all of the popular options all into one easy to find thread. I think this would be very convenient, especially since the search function won’t allow you to use things like 4.44 or 4.11 as search terms. :rolleyes:
If anyone finds anything that is incorrect, or has any info to add to this, please post here and I will try to keep on top of updating the first post of this thread. I want this to be as accurate as possible.
If this turns out well, perhaps a mod could make it a sticky? ;)
Automatics:
4.44 trans swap
Pros: Geared more for acceleration than the SVX 3.54 trans. Stronger gears, doesn’t have the typical failures that the stock transmission has. Better availability than the stock SVX trans and a relatively inexpensive upgrade.
Cons: Freeway cruising will be at a slightly higher RPM due to the steeper gear ratios.
Where to find it: These came in 2.5L legacy outbacks from 96-98. The part number needs to start with TZ102Z2... the last 3 letters only refer to the year and model of car, outback, LSi, or GT. all 3 will work, as long as the part number is as stated above.
If the trans number ends with:
....BA it comes from an outback.
....CA is a GT, and
....AA is a LSi.
All 3 will work.
Taken from: http://www.subaru-svx.net/forum/showthread.php?t=49026
4.44, 4EAT Transmission Numbers (http://www.subaru-svx.net/forum/showthread.php?t=44184)
How to info: How to instructions by svxfiles (http://www.subaru-svx.net/forum/showpost.php?p=303945&postcount=6)
Additional Info (http://www.subaru-svx.net/forum/showthread.php?t=46226)
4.11 trans swap
Pros: Geared more for acceleration than the stock 3.54 trans, but less than the 4.44. Kind of the middle road for auto trans gear ratios.
Cons: A number of these swaps are failing just like the factory trans, so it may not be much of an improvement over stock in regards to reliability. Freeway cruising will be at a slightly higher RPM than stock due to the steeper gear ratios.
Where to find it: These can be found in 1990-1994 Legacy's, although, some 1992-1994 have 3.90.
How to info: How to instructions by svxfiles (http://www.subaru-svx.net/forum/showpost.php?p=303945&postcount=6)
3.90 trans swap
Pros: Geared more for acceleration than the stock 3.54 trans, but less than both the 4.11 and 4.44.
Cons: Freeway cruising will be at a slightly higher RPM than stock due to the steeper gear ratios.
Where to find it: These can be found in some 1992-1994 Legacy's.
How to info: How to instructions by svxfiles (http://www.subaru-svx.net/forum/showpost.php?p=303945&postcount=6)
Overview of automatic transmissions:
The below was taken from: http://www.subaru-svx.net/forum/showpost.php?p=567088&postcount=22
Stock: Builds up too much heat which leads to failure of the high clutch packs. A properly rebuilt stock trans with external filter and cooler should last as long as any 4.44 (or longer). 1995+ SVX transmissions are less prone to failure as long as they have the cooler and external filter. They don't have the internal screen that the 1992-1994ish have.
4.11: Were not built to handle the heavy SVX. They have less clutch packs, so they fail prematurely. The difference in final gearing does not make up for their lack of clutch packs.
4.44: Were built for towing, they have less clutch packs than a stock tranny but the final gearing gives them more leverage and so they generate far less heat.
Manuals:
5MT swap
Pros: Manual transmission. :) Lower maintenance/more reliable than the autos once installed. Better acceleration than factory SVX auto trans. Cheaper than the STI 6MT. Aftermarket (stronger) gearsets available for the WRX versions.
Cons: Not a direct bolt-in, requires custom parts (crossmember etc.), is more difficult to install, and is more expensive than the autos. Cannot handle high power levels as well as the STI 6MT, but is sufficient enough for most SVXs.
Where to find it: Most Impreza and Legacy transmissions will work and also Impreza WRX transmissions will work. Part way through the 2003 model year the WRX 5MT was revised with a few changes, which supposedly makes them stronger than the earlier version (MY02 through the first half of MY03). There were also a few more changes in later model years that I do not know the details of.
How to info:
http://www.subaru-svx.net/forum/showthread.php?t=54258
STI 6MT swap
Pros: Manual transmission. :) Lower maintenance/more reliable than the autos once installed. Better acceleration than factory SVX auto trans. Been proven to handle very high levels of power in stock form. Aftermarket (stronger) gearsets available. Also has the ability to use the Driver Controlled Center Differential if desired.
Cons: Not a direct bolt-in, requires custom parts (crossmember etc.), and is more difficult to install. Very expensive in comparison to the other swaps. Average prices are around $4500 for the drivetrain alone, not to mention the additional parts needed to make it work in an SVX.
Where to find it: MY04+ Impreza WRX STIs.
How to info:
http://www.subaru-svx.net/forum/showthread.php?t=54258 (This is for an older Impreza 5MT but is related to the 6MT)
Driveshaft information:
96-99 legacy outback 5 speed driveshafts are the correct length for 5MT swaps. Stock SVX driveshafts work for 6MT swaps.
And lastly, don't forget the additional things to do while the trans is out!
http://www.subaru-svx.net/forum/showthread.php?t=38224
-Jon
If anyone finds anything that is incorrect, or has any info to add to this, please post here and I will try to keep on top of updating the first post of this thread. I want this to be as accurate as possible.
If this turns out well, perhaps a mod could make it a sticky? ;)
Automatics:
4.44 trans swap
Pros: Geared more for acceleration than the SVX 3.54 trans. Stronger gears, doesn’t have the typical failures that the stock transmission has. Better availability than the stock SVX trans and a relatively inexpensive upgrade.
Cons: Freeway cruising will be at a slightly higher RPM due to the steeper gear ratios.
Where to find it: These came in 2.5L legacy outbacks from 96-98. The part number needs to start with TZ102Z2... the last 3 letters only refer to the year and model of car, outback, LSi, or GT. all 3 will work, as long as the part number is as stated above.
If the trans number ends with:
....BA it comes from an outback.
....CA is a GT, and
....AA is a LSi.
All 3 will work.
Taken from: http://www.subaru-svx.net/forum/showthread.php?t=49026
4.44, 4EAT Transmission Numbers (http://www.subaru-svx.net/forum/showthread.php?t=44184)
How to info: How to instructions by svxfiles (http://www.subaru-svx.net/forum/showpost.php?p=303945&postcount=6)
Additional Info (http://www.subaru-svx.net/forum/showthread.php?t=46226)
4.11 trans swap
Pros: Geared more for acceleration than the stock 3.54 trans, but less than the 4.44. Kind of the middle road for auto trans gear ratios.
Cons: A number of these swaps are failing just like the factory trans, so it may not be much of an improvement over stock in regards to reliability. Freeway cruising will be at a slightly higher RPM than stock due to the steeper gear ratios.
Where to find it: These can be found in 1990-1994 Legacy's, although, some 1992-1994 have 3.90.
How to info: How to instructions by svxfiles (http://www.subaru-svx.net/forum/showpost.php?p=303945&postcount=6)
3.90 trans swap
Pros: Geared more for acceleration than the stock 3.54 trans, but less than both the 4.11 and 4.44.
Cons: Freeway cruising will be at a slightly higher RPM than stock due to the steeper gear ratios.
Where to find it: These can be found in some 1992-1994 Legacy's.
How to info: How to instructions by svxfiles (http://www.subaru-svx.net/forum/showpost.php?p=303945&postcount=6)
Overview of automatic transmissions:
The below was taken from: http://www.subaru-svx.net/forum/showpost.php?p=567088&postcount=22
Stock: Builds up too much heat which leads to failure of the high clutch packs. A properly rebuilt stock trans with external filter and cooler should last as long as any 4.44 (or longer). 1995+ SVX transmissions are less prone to failure as long as they have the cooler and external filter. They don't have the internal screen that the 1992-1994ish have.
4.11: Were not built to handle the heavy SVX. They have less clutch packs, so they fail prematurely. The difference in final gearing does not make up for their lack of clutch packs.
4.44: Were built for towing, they have less clutch packs than a stock tranny but the final gearing gives them more leverage and so they generate far less heat.
Manuals:
5MT swap
Pros: Manual transmission. :) Lower maintenance/more reliable than the autos once installed. Better acceleration than factory SVX auto trans. Cheaper than the STI 6MT. Aftermarket (stronger) gearsets available for the WRX versions.
Cons: Not a direct bolt-in, requires custom parts (crossmember etc.), is more difficult to install, and is more expensive than the autos. Cannot handle high power levels as well as the STI 6MT, but is sufficient enough for most SVXs.
Where to find it: Most Impreza and Legacy transmissions will work and also Impreza WRX transmissions will work. Part way through the 2003 model year the WRX 5MT was revised with a few changes, which supposedly makes them stronger than the earlier version (MY02 through the first half of MY03). There were also a few more changes in later model years that I do not know the details of.
How to info:
http://www.subaru-svx.net/forum/showthread.php?t=54258
STI 6MT swap
Pros: Manual transmission. :) Lower maintenance/more reliable than the autos once installed. Better acceleration than factory SVX auto trans. Been proven to handle very high levels of power in stock form. Aftermarket (stronger) gearsets available. Also has the ability to use the Driver Controlled Center Differential if desired.
Cons: Not a direct bolt-in, requires custom parts (crossmember etc.), and is more difficult to install. Very expensive in comparison to the other swaps. Average prices are around $4500 for the drivetrain alone, not to mention the additional parts needed to make it work in an SVX.
Where to find it: MY04+ Impreza WRX STIs.
How to info:
http://www.subaru-svx.net/forum/showthread.php?t=54258 (This is for an older Impreza 5MT but is related to the 6MT)
Driveshaft information:
96-99 legacy outback 5 speed driveshafts are the correct length for 5MT swaps. Stock SVX driveshafts work for 6MT swaps.
And lastly, don't forget the additional things to do while the trans is out!
http://www.subaru-svx.net/forum/showthread.php?t=38224
-Jon