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EFI Logics
12-04-2008, 09:14 PM
I'm posting this on this forum because I'm sure this is a swap that you guys would appreciate.

First off, I'd like to say that Jack and I have worked at XX Tuning for the last 8 years, in doing so, both Jack and I left to start EFI Logics (http://www.efilogics.com) in Bethel, CT. When Jack came aboard, he brought with him his GC8 Frankenstein ST-2 Track car with him.

After loosing the stock EG33/SVX motor at Pocono North race last year due to oil starvation, the car is finally back in action. The car consists of so many one-off hand made parts, including an amazing oil pan made by "Bob The fabricator", in which he also did the head porting.

Last year, the car made 285whp and 250wtq with stock shortblock, Custom Ground WEB cams, and ported heads. This year, Jack upped the compression and cubic inches. The build includes:

2000 Subaru RS
BBS Brakes all around
JIC suspension
Custom Rear sway bar
Custom Front Sway Bar
Cage by Bob the Fabricator
Custom Dash with Autometer gauges

Engine / Management:
EG33 SVX Flat 6
Custom Ported heads
Manley Rods
Cometic Head gaskets
ARP Head studs
Custom Web cams
Supertec valvetrain w/ BMW Solid buckets
Modified Cam gears
Custom JE Hich Compression pistons - All machine work done by Larry's Automotive in Stonington, CT.
Stock Intake Manifold
Custom 8qt Baffled road race pan (Bob the Fabricator)
Meziere Electric Waterpump
Custom 1 3/4 Headers (Bob The Fabricator)
Custom Motor and Tranny mounts
Custom Air box (Bob the Fabricator)
Custom MSD Ignition
Balanced and Blueprinted STIi Injectors by Deatschwerks
Autronic SMC Engine Management tuned by EFI Logics (http://www.efilogics.com)
Autronic CDI box
Custom 5 speed gear box W/ RA Gear set and Cusco Tarmac Center diff from Fizz Autosports

There is probably more we are missing, but that is the most of it. The car was tuned today, on our Mustang Dyno, and produced a very impressive 320whp and 276wtq @ 8200rpm, SAE corrected. Dyno Graph (http://efilogics.com/dyno/index.php?runid1=79&runid2=0&hp=1&torque=1&gb=1) (we are working on the bug with it going off the chart).

YOUTUBE VIDEO (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqnuj58lFQI)

http://efilogics.com/motorsports/eg33rs/oilpan.JPG

http://efilogics.com/motorsports/eg33rs/oilpan1.JPG

http://efilogics.com/motorsports/eg33rs/pistons.JPG

http://efilogics.com/motorsports/eg33rs/cams.JPG

http://efilogics.com/motorsports/eg33rs/engine.JPG

http://efilogics.com/motorsports/eg33rs/engine_car.jpg

http://efilogics.com/motorsports/eg33rs/jackdyno.jpg

http://efilogics.com/motorsports/eg33rs/jackdyno2.jpg

http://efilogics.com/motorsports/eg33rs/jackdyno3.jpg



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Chris - Owner / Lead Calibrator
XX Tuning's former Tuner / Shop manager

Jack - Shop Foreman / Head of Race Car development / Motorsports division
XX Tuning's former Shop Foreman

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EFI Cars:
2000 EG33 GC8 3.3RS ST-2 #33 - Class Winner - No boost!
2004 STi ST-2 #777 - 3 Time Class Winner / Watkins Glenn ST-2 track record holder.
2004 STi ST-2 #27 - 8 Time Class Winner / 2008 Points leader.
2006 Evo9 ST-2 #42 - 4 Time Class Winner
2005 Evo8 ST-2 #101 - 2 Time Class winner

TomsSVX
12-04-2008, 09:46 PM
Bob has done a nice job of keeping us in tune with the car and its performance of the past year. Really impressive stuff you guys are doing. Keep it up!!:):)

Tom

SubaruSVXCrazy
12-04-2008, 09:52 PM
WOW, very nice. 320 horse on an na eg33 thats awesome. Nice gc8, I just got 99 rs coupe like two months ago, there such enjoyable cars. Good job, besta luck with it.

odepaj
12-04-2008, 09:53 PM
That is really amazing!:eek:

I've been really reconsidering my F/I build for an N/A build. Turbo spool just sounds to good to say no to though :lol:

Good luck with it! I hope to see you guys putting down even more power in the future with this!






Dustin

odepaj
12-04-2008, 09:55 PM
WOW, very nice. 320 horse eg33 thats awesome. Nice gc8, I just got 99 rs coupe like two months ago, there such enjoyable cars. Good job, besta luck with it.

Thats 320 at the wheels! :eek::lol:

Which means alittle over 400 at the crank!





Dustin

SubaruSVXCrazy
12-04-2008, 10:11 PM
Thats 320 at the wheels! :eek::lol:

Which means alittle over 400 at the crank!





Dustin
I quickly skimed it, my bad. :lol:

subbieatnz
12-05-2008, 05:10 AM
awesum i so want one for my svx

SilverSpear
12-05-2008, 05:21 AM
What impressed me most are the works done on the valvetrain... Kudos!

huck369
12-05-2008, 05:28 AM
Kudos to these guys....
But this is a RACE motor, it would suck in a street car (but be really fun on a track:D)

sicksubie
12-05-2008, 11:11 AM
Major props to you guys for doing this..... Any thought on doing slightly less extreme EG33 work for svx owners??

EFI Logics
12-05-2008, 09:19 PM
Major props to you guys for doing this..... Any thought on doing slightly less extreme EG33 work for svx owners??

Although we aren't a vendor on the forum, if you guys are looking for any type of advice or work done to your SVX/Eg33.. Please feel free to hit us up, Jack is a wealth of knowledge when it comes to this drivetrain.

- Chris

www.efilogics.com

Subix
12-05-2008, 10:42 PM
awesum i so want one for my svx

That's what I was thinking... please drop one on my SVX :)
I would need it to be slightly less modified but it looks great!

RallyBob
12-06-2008, 03:19 PM
Thanks for the updates Chris. Saves me having to type it all out!

SVXRide
12-06-2008, 06:07 PM
Could you give us some additional details regarding what you've done with the coolant system? Almost looks like you've gone with an STi-like set up..
Thanks.
-Bill
p.s. also interested in how the Stealth HD steering quickener might be incorporated into the SVX's steering

Blenderhead
12-07-2008, 02:58 PM
You said more displacement, but I don't see where you say how you did that. Is the motor a stroker or the block sleeved and bored, or what? Part of the reason I ask, is that I was looking at the different bore/stroke ratios on the different flat-6 motors, and it looks like putting a 3.0 crank into a 3.3 block would give you a 3.5L engine, and I was wondering if the cranks share the same journal sizes and if something like this had ever been done. If anyone knows the answer to this, please let me know.

huck369
12-07-2008, 08:06 PM
You said more displacement, but I don't see where you say how you did that. Is the motor a stroker or the block sleeved and bored, or what? Part of the reason I ask, is that I was looking at the different bore/stroke ratios on the different flat-6 motors, and it looks like putting a 3.0 crank into a 3.3 block would give you a 3.5L engine, and I was wondering if the cranks share the same journal sizes and if something like this had ever been done. If anyone knows the answer to this, please let me know.


There is no way a EZ30 or EZ36 crank will fit in a eg33, as the EZ motor is a lot shorter front to back.....

RallyBob
12-07-2008, 08:28 PM
You said more displacement, but I don't see where you say how you did that. Is the motor a stroker or the block sleeved and bored, or what? Part of the reason I ask, is that I was looking at the different bore/stroke ratios on the different flat-6 motors, and it looks like putting a 3.0 crank into a 3.3 block would give you a 3.5L engine, and I was wondering if the cranks share the same journal sizes and if something like this had ever been done. If anyone knows the answer to this, please let me know.

Stock stroke, but custom 100 mm pistons. New displacement is 3534 cc's.

Hondasucks
12-07-2008, 09:40 PM
I'm curious about that intake setup, would be awesome to make that work on an SVX. I'd also be down with that DIS setup you are using, might not be enough room for it in an SVX (I wonder if they make aftermarket coil-on-plug coils that would fit...)

Also, needless to say, I know that car has got to be insanely fast! Those are quick enough with the 165 HP NA 4 banger in them... Please tell me that has a manual transmission behind it!

tiv0
12-07-2008, 11:40 PM
Please tell me that has a manual transmission behind it!

Custom 5 speed gear box W/ RA Gear set and Cusco Tarmac Center diff from Fizz Autosports

yep, it does

Blenderhead
12-08-2008, 10:18 AM
OK, so no good on the stroker idea. Did you have to re-sleeve the block to bore it out that much?

JaySVX
12-08-2008, 11:03 AM
Very nice job, first I've heard of this one. Any specifics on the cam profiles you're running? Also, any info on the ignition system? Looks quite nice.

RallyBob
12-08-2008, 01:59 PM
Any specifics on the cam profiles you're running?

Specs are here (http://www.subaru-svx.net/forum/showpost.php?p=537077&postcount=153) in the original thread.

Also, any info on the ignition system? Looks quite nice.

Uses the Autronic CDI box and individual MSD coils.

RS22b
12-08-2008, 02:11 PM
So wait a second here. Does that mean that EFI is tuning Autronic?

that would be awesome!

_billy

RallyBob
12-08-2008, 02:25 PM
So wait a second here. Does that mean that EFI is tuning Autronic?

that would be awesome!

_billy

Yes, they have tuned quite a few.

RS22b
12-08-2008, 02:40 PM
thats great!

We are not too far apart either. Still on the hinge as far as which system im going to get but being they can do the Autronics i assume they can also do Motec and Pectel?

thx.
_billy

RallyBob
12-08-2008, 02:47 PM
thats great!

We are not too far apart either. Still on the hinge as far as which system im going to get but being they can do the Autronics i assume they can also do Motec and Pectel?

thx.
_billy

I think Chris has worked on Motec, probably not Pectel. It's not as common in North America FWIW. I rate the Pectel along the lines of DTA Fast, Emerald, Luminition and Hestec, fairly common in Europe but not over here.

RallyBob
12-08-2008, 02:50 PM
OK, so no good on the stroker idea. Did you have to re-sleeve the block to bore it out that much?

My understanding is that the machinist did not sleeve the block. He cut up Jack's old damaged block and deemed the OEM cast-in sleeves thick enough for naturally aspirated use.

solarsvx
12-09-2008, 11:11 AM
wow awsome work !!!

intellibomb
12-09-2008, 03:43 PM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2111/2262440656_c1c1259088.jpg?v=0

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2134/2262458548_9fbcb30e22.jpg?v=0

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2296/2262440644_61f43a1326.jpg?v=0


me gusta el INTAKE
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2195/2262419982_5ba7e7ac5c.jpg?v=0


*droooling*


very nice work.
my hat is off. next project: do this to an svx!

BackWoodsBob
09-27-2012, 12:35 PM
Good god. I've found them, finally.

sunvalleyray
09-27-2012, 01:05 PM
Great work but why didn't you paint/clean up the oil pan?

Ray

icingdeath88
09-27-2012, 01:33 PM
Great work but why didn't you paint/clean up the oil pan?

Ray

Because that's not the oil pan they were actually using. Have a look at the first pic: http://www.subaru-svx.net/forum/showpost.php?p=574974&postcount=1