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UPnorth362
10-23-2007, 07:31 PM
Hi All,
Just wanted to let everyone know that I have put together a few different versions of a SSM link Interface cable, for transmitting and receiving data to and from the ECU via a laptop computer. This Interface is good for reading ROM code from the ECU, TCU,and ACU. Its also used as a link for the VWRX software to act as a Subaru select monitor to read vital engine management parameter. Please follow link http://www.subaru-svx.net/forum/showthread.php?t=38685 for further info about related projects. Also, a big thanks to Phil and all other members for there continued effort on this project.
I have two different models that I would like to offer for sale to anyone interested in purchasing a premade setup. I am offering a serial converter, that will plug into the serial (com port) on your laptop, or PC without a usb port, and a usb converter, for people without a serial port on there PC. These device will work with any obd1 model Subaru with a standard SSM port and some obd2 with modifications. They have both been tested, and in most cases are not susceptible to the common "92 non communication issue".
Specs:
Serial.
*$70.00
*Plug and play
*Includes all components, and SSM adapter plug. (serial cable included)
*Built in status led for RX, and TX visual signal monitoring.
*No special configurations needed.
*256byte RX buffer memory, and 128byte Tx buffer memory for faster soother data flow.
*All Windows, Linux, Unix, and Mac operating systems are supported.
USB.
*$80.00
*Plug and play
*Includes all components, and SSM adapter plug. (usb cable included)
*Built in status led for RX, and TX visual signal monitoring.
*No special port configurations, or drivers are needed. Computer sees it as a true com port .
*256byte RX buffer memory, and 128byte Tx buffer memory for faster soother data flow.
*All Windows, Linux, Unix, and Mac operating systems are supported.
Prices include standard Priority shipping within the US.
Any questions, please post here so all member may view them.
Thanks
Mike.
wawazat??
10-23-2007, 08:48 PM
I have a Select Monitor but not the cable to conect it to the port on the car. Can you make me one of those cables? Cost?
Thanks,
Todd
NiftySVX
10-23-2007, 09:01 PM
I'd be interested in one of these. Can you describe what it looks like on the screen of the computer? Is it shown in raw data or does it look like the picture with gauges shown in the thread you mentioned?
UPnorth362
10-23-2007, 09:05 PM
Do you mean, you have the actual hand held select monitor from Subaru, or you have software on a pc? I could probably make a cable for you if you need one for the factory select monitor.
UPnorth362
10-23-2007, 09:12 PM
I'd be interested in one of these. Can you describe what it looks like on the screen of the computer? Is it shown in raw data or does it look like the picture with gauges shown in the thread you mentioned?
There are several things you can do with the cable. You can do a dump of the internal ROM in the ecu and view the hex data. It can also be used with the VWRX software to view the engine parameters in guage form. There will be more functionality later down the road, like turning on power mode for the TCU through the computer.
nextse7en
10-23-2007, 09:28 PM
Hi there,
Please sign me up, and provide me with a way to pay you, (paypal?) I will need a USB version.
Forive my ignorance, but will this allow me to stream data from the ECU in real time? I am in the process of building an in dash computer, and would very much like to see data at a glance.
Also is this VWRX software freely available, or where can I purchase it.
Thanks so much,
Patrick
sicksubie
10-23-2007, 09:31 PM
Maybe a dumb question but will there be re-writing capabilities in this? AKA burning new ROMS
UPnorth362
10-23-2007, 09:40 PM
Hi there,
Please sign me up, and provide me with a way to pay you, (paypal?) I will need a USB version.
Forive my ignorance, but will this allow me to stream data from the ECU in real time? I am in the process of building an in dash computer, and would very much like to see data at a glance.
Also is this VWRX software freely available, or where can I purchase it.
Thanks so much,
Patrick
PM sent with payment info. The VWRX software is free, although donations are probably more than welcomed. You can download it from http://www.vwrx.com/index.php?pg=selectmonitor here. Phil has the configuration file that will need to be updated on his website http://www.alcyone.org.uk/ssm/ecu/SelectMonitor.ini here.
UPnorth362
10-23-2007, 09:50 PM
Maybe a dumb question but will there be re-writing capabilities in this? AKA burning new ROMS
There is not a capability to flash the rom inside the ECU with this cable. The Capability to flash the on board rom was not added to these ECUs. However, you can download the rom with the cable, modify the data in the rom, and burn new roms, that can be plugged into the extra socket in the ECU via a memory adapter. I will be offering the adapter board, roms, and the service to burn rom files to roms for people shortly.
NiftySVX
10-23-2007, 09:52 PM
So you download the software and plug in the cable and that's it?
UPnorth362
10-23-2007, 10:03 PM
You download the software, update the configuration file with the svx parameters, and plug in the cable. Thats it, watch the gages display the ECU values:cool: Just dont get distracted with the screen while you are driving.
wawazat??
10-24-2007, 05:29 AM
Do you mean, you have the actual hand held select monitor from Subaru, or you have software on a pc? I could probably make a cable for you if you need one for the factory select monitor.
I have the Select Monitor from Subaru. It is missing the cable that connects from the port in the car to the round connector on the Select Monitor itself.
Todd
Nomake Wan
10-24-2007, 09:22 AM
Yeah guys. You plug this thing in then run the "Select Monitor Dump" program from VWRX.com to get your ROM ID. Then you open up the SelectMonitor.ini file Phil made, changing the ROM ID of his SVX entry to the one that you just found. Run the SelectMonitor program and bam, you've got gauges/info!
But be aware that at the moment, the software is very buggy. It has a habit of locking up when switching between gauge and graph mode, as well as falling out of sync with the ECU as it attempts to update values. I have asked questions about this in the official forum but it looks like the creator has vanished. So I don't know if the software will ever be updated to fix these problems.
However, the Linux-based software that Phil is working on seems most promising. It cannot do what VWRX's can at the moment (all it can do is dump data from the ECU and TCU), but the actual communication code is all there. The ability to display incoming information as a graphical representation is merely left to be coded. And since Phil is an active member here who is very much interested in the project, his will be the way to go in the future.
It would be very cool for more programming-oriented people to get their hands on adapters. A joint programming project would be awesome. :D Heck, I'm tempted to try my hand at a Java program or something.
Anyway, that's the lowdown. These cables allow you to connect a computer to your car and read information from the ECU, TCU, ACU and possibly other computers in the car. The actual software to make sense of the data is somewhat available but not perfect.
paulmeisterpk
10-24-2007, 12:42 PM
Does this work with OBD II? or just OBD I?
UPnorth362
10-24-2007, 03:31 PM
Yeah guys. You plug this thing in then run the "Select Monitor Dump" program from VWRX.com to get your ROM ID. Then you open up the SelectMonitor.ini file Phil made, changing the ROM ID of his SVX entry to the one that you just found. Run the SelectMonitor program and bam, you've got gauges/info!
But be aware that at the moment, the software is very buggy. It has a habit of locking up when switching between gauge and graph mode, as well as falling out of sync with the ECU as it attempts to update values. I have asked questions about this in the official forum but it looks like the creator has vanished. So I don't know if the software will ever be updated to fix these problems.
However, the Linux-based software that Phil is working on seems most promising. It cannot do what VWRX's can at the moment (all it can do is dump data from the ECU and TCU), but the actual communication code is all there. The ability to display incoming information as a graphical representation is merely left to be coded. And since Phil is an active member here who is very much interested in the project, his will be the way to go in the future.
It would be very cool for more programming-oriented people to get their hands on adapters. A joint programming project would be awesome. :D Heck, I'm tempted to try my hand at a Java program or something.
Anyway, that's the lowdown. These cables allow you to connect a computer to your car and read information from the ECU, TCU, ACU and possibly other computers in the car. The actual software to make sense of the data is somewhat available but not perfect.
Nomake, thanks for the great explanation. I was a bit tired last night while trying to write the post. One of the biggest reason I have decided to make these cables readily available, is with hopes to get more people interested in the project. There are some great programs available in java format for data logging and such, but I think we need to get a few more programmers interested to help speed things along.
Will be posting some pics of the cables tonight.
sicksubie
10-24-2007, 03:37 PM
I am incredibly interested in this because of the huge need to fine tune the car with the stage III.
Nomake Wan
10-24-2007, 03:38 PM
I'd be very interested to see your take on the "USB compatible" adapter.
And I agree; getting more people into the project is a huge step in the right direction!
As to those Java logging programs... got any links? I wouldn't mind taking a gander in there and seeing if I can't get something working. ;) Java's the only language I really have experience in, haha.
Benztech55
10-24-2007, 03:59 PM
I'll take one. I ok if I sent you a money order. Because I don't do paypal anymore since they lost my money and cannot find it. I need usb verison
UPnorth362
10-24-2007, 04:52 PM
Does this work with OBD II? or just OBD I?
The cables will work with some early model OBD2 Subarus with the SSM interface. However, I do not have a complete list as of yet. I will be doing more experimenting in the near future with OBD2 cars.
UPnorth362
10-24-2007, 04:55 PM
I'll take one. I ok if I sent you a money order. Because I don't do paypal anymore since they lost my money and cannot find it. I need usb verison
Money order is ok with me as well. PM sent
UPnorth362
10-24-2007, 05:10 PM
I'd be very interested to see your take on the "USB compatible" adapter.
And I agree; getting more people into the project is a huge step in the right direction!
As to those Java logging programs... got any links? I wouldn't mind taking a gander in there and seeing if I can't get something working. ;) Java's the only language I really have experience in, haha.
Does that mean you would like to buy one?(:
Take a look at this program called JDash. I have been playing around with it a bit, and it should work very nicely for data logging on the SVX. I need some help with the code. I have the source code if you need it. It works on all platforms, so great for putting on a linux machine. It actually runs better on linux.
wawazat??
10-24-2007, 06:46 PM
Still wondering if you can make me a cable for my select monitor (the actual device)?
UPnorth362
10-24-2007, 07:33 PM
Still wondering if you can make me a cable for my select monitor (the actual device)?
What version SSM do you have? v.1, v.2, or the brand new v.3
Nomake Wan
10-24-2007, 08:59 PM
Does that mean you would like to buy one?(:
No, I have one of Phil's original interfaces for a few more days, and after that I'm building my own USB interface. Thanks for the offer, though.
Take a look at this program called JDash. I have been playing around with it a bit, and it should work very nicely for data logging on the SVX. I need some help with the code. I have the source code if you need it. It works on all platforms, so great for putting on a linux machine. It actually runs better on linux.
I've got a knoppix disc Phil provided that works like a charm on my laptop, so I'd probably do code stuff from there. If you could PM the source code to me, that would rock. I'll check it out a little later and see if something can be done. I'm still reading up on Java-Serial interfacing but if I put my mind to it, I think I can do anything. :rolleyes::D
UPnorth362
10-24-2007, 09:52 PM
No, I have one of Phil's original interfaces for a few more days, and after that I'm building my own USB interface. Thanks for the offer, though.
I've got a knoppix disc Phil provided that works like a charm on my laptop, so I'd probably do code stuff from there. If you could PM the source code to me, that would rock. I'll check it out a little later and see if something can be done. I'm still reading up on Java-Serial interfacing but if I put my mind to it, I think I can do anything. :rolleyes::D
This http://jdash.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/jdash/JDash/src/net/sourceforge/JDash/ is the link to the source files. All the code is written for the interface, I just dont know how to link all the files toghter. So please take a look at it, and let me know what you think.
Nomake Wan
10-25-2007, 11:02 AM
Very interesting... I've got it all saved and stuff, and was going to try my hand at writing something for out car... but it turns out he's got a Subaru Select Monitor protocol written already, for both OBD1 and OBD2 cars. So I guess all people need is the cable. My observations on the cable for the Select Monitor (v2) are that it's DB-29 Serial-->OBDII-->OBDI to go to our (92-95) cars. Meaning that aside from a physical appearance difference (and therefore, a change in which pins perform which function), it would appear that there is no serious difference between OBDI and OBDII input for our cars.
Another interesting tidbit... the interface for that Java-based program looks suspisciously like the Windows interface the guy on VWRX uses. :rolleyes: I have a feeling I know where that VWRX guy got his idea, hahaha.
But this looks quite promising! I'll have to dig deeper into the code and see what comes up. With any luck, this'll be our cross-platform program of choice!
I wonder if it supports writing to the ECU...? :D
b3lha
10-26-2007, 02:47 AM
Wow. I've only just seen this thread. Nice work Mike. This will be much easier for people than trying to build one themselves.
I hope Nomake can get jdash working. This project really needs some better software that can run on windows. I don't know java but obviously I'll give whatever help I can with regard to the ECU.
UPnorth362
10-26-2007, 06:37 PM
Very interesting... I've got it all saved and stuff, and was going to try my hand at writing something for out car... but it turns out he's got a Subaru Select Monitor protocol written already, for both OBD1 and OBD2 cars. So I guess all people need is the cable. My observations on the cable for the Select Monitor (v2) are that it's DB-29 Serial-->OBDII-->OBDI to go to our (92-95) cars. Meaning that aside from a physical appearance difference (and therefore, a change in which pins perform which function), it would appear that there is no serious difference between OBDI and OBDII input for our cars.
Another interesting tidbit... the interface for that Java-based program looks suspisciously like the Windows interface the guy on VWRX uses. :rolleyes: I have a feeling I know where that VWRX guy got his idea, hahaha.
But this looks quite promising! I'll have to dig deeper into the code and see what comes up. With any luck, this'll be our cross-platform program of choice!
I wonder if it supports writing to the ECU...? :D
Wow. I've only just seen this thread. Nice work Mike. This will be much easier for people than trying to build one themselves.
I hope Nomake can get jdash working. This project really needs some better software that can run on windows. I don't know java but obviously I'll give whatever help I can with regard to the ECU.
Nomake, I have made SOME progress with the Jdash files. I really do hope we can get it working. It should be simple, I just dont have much time at the moment to read my new java programming book. If I can be of any help, let me know. You are truly becoming a legend on this site.
Phill. Thanks, all the converters sold so far, have been working as expected. I hope this will get more people involved. You have been my inspiration, so hats off to you as well:) Best wishes to your new little girl.
TomsSVX
10-26-2007, 07:45 PM
I got mine working today... Super fast for what I was expecting and works perfectly. Thanks a million Mike, great product and highly recommended
Tom
UPnorth362
10-26-2007, 07:59 PM
Update. All converters will come with the proper cables to hook up to your pc. There will be no additional cost.
USB adapter will come with one 6ft male A to mini B cable
Serial adapter will come with one 6ft straight through male to female 9pin Dsub cable.
UPnorth362
10-26-2007, 08:06 PM
Tom, you have been a pleasure to work with. I am glad that we got the cable issue sorted out. Hope this adapter will help you with diagnosing your idle problem.
Nomake Wan
10-27-2007, 03:16 AM
Update. All converters will come with the proper cables to hook up to your pc. There will be no additional cost.
USB adapter will come with one 6ft male A to mini B cable
Serial adapter will come with one 6ft straight through male to female 9pin Dsub cable.
Hahaha, good idea! This way no one runs into Tom's problem... :o That sucked to hear, but good that he got it sorted.
Anyway, I'm without an adapter right at the moment, the mail didn't come. So perhaps on Monday I'll have an interface again, and will be able to continue with the work on Jdash.
ensteele
10-27-2007, 11:10 AM
I would like to purchase one also. Please send me your paypal info and the amount. Thanks
Email would be good and that can be sent by clicking on Earl on my signature or the "Email me" at the bottom of my signature. :)
nextse7en
10-27-2007, 11:32 AM
If you were planning of issuing refund for those that had already made a purchase at 80 - please just donate mine to the network - if not, no worries.
Thanks for taking us another step forward in SVX knowledge.
-Patrick
UPnorth362
10-27-2007, 12:17 PM
If you were planning of issuing refund for those that had already made a purchase at 80 - please just donate mine to the network - if not, no worries.
Thanks for taking us another step forward in SVX knowledge.
-Patrick
Patrick, I will donate a few $ to the network per each customer that had purchased the converters without a cable. The cables only cost me $3 or $4 each so not a huge amount. I am not really making any profit from selling these, so I will put the other half of the refund into other upcoming services. Myself, as well as the rest of the network thank you for your selflessness.
UPnorth362
10-27-2007, 12:47 PM
I would like to purchase one also. Please send me your paypal info and the amount. Thanks
Email would be good and that can be sent by clicking on Earl on my signature or the "Email me" at the bottom of my signature. :)
Earl, Are you sure you dont need a converter for each of your SVXies?:lol: You have an excellent collection.
ensteele
10-27-2007, 02:52 PM
Thanks Mike. :) :)
CorSVXette
11-17-2007, 10:47 AM
Does this work just like the SSM you would buy for $$$$ with the cartridges? Does it pull the CEL codes for you? Can you reset the CEL with it?
Nomake Wan
11-18-2007, 05:37 AM
Does this work just like the SSM you would buy for $$$$ with the cartridges? Does it pull the CEL codes for you? Can you reset the CEL with it?
This is not a Select Monitor. This is a Select Monitor interface. It is merely a means to connect your car, via the SM port, to your computer, via Serial or USB.
What you do from that point on depends on the software you use.
ensteele
12-28-2007, 08:57 PM
I have tried to contact UPnorth362 and will let you know what I find out. This needs to be resolved. I need to know how many members have paid and not gotten their cables. :o
Hocrest
12-28-2007, 09:07 PM
I have tried to contact UPnorth362 and will let you know what I find out. This needs to be resolved. I need to know how many members have paid and not gotten their cables. :o
I paid, and didn't get one :(
My first time scammed over the internet:mad:
SomethingElse
12-28-2007, 09:27 PM
it takes mike a long time to get stuff done. I waited 4 months for a title he was supposed to have me in 2 weeks. Thought he was going to blow me off but he said he was in a motorcycle accident.
ensteele
12-29-2007, 12:51 AM
Still need a cable:
1) Hocrest
ensteele
12-29-2007, 12:53 AM
Still need a cable:
1) Hocrest
2) genzzel
sharondror
01-24-2008, 04:47 PM
Hi All,
Just wanted to let everyone know that I have put together a few different versions of a SSM link Interface cable, for transmitting and receiving data to and from the ECU via a laptop computer. This Interface is good for reading ROM code from the ECU, TCU,and ACU. Its also used as a link for the VWRX software to act as a Subaru select monitor to read vital engine management parameter. Please follow link http://www.subaru-svx.net/forum/showthread.php?t=38685 for further info about related projects. Also, a big thanks to Phil and all other members for there continued effort on this project.
I have two different models that I would like to offer for sale to anyone interested in purchasing a premade setup. I am offering a serial converter, that will plug into the serial (com port) on your laptop, or PC without a usb port, and a usb converter, for people without a serial port on there PC. These device will work with any obd1 model Subaru with a standard SSM port and some obd2 with modifications. They have both been tested, and in most cases are not susceptible to the common "92 non communication issue".
Specs:
Serial.
*$70.00
*Plug and play
*Includes all components, and SSM adapter plug. (serial cable included)
*Built in status led for RX, and TX visual signal monitoring.
*No special configurations needed.
*256byte RX buffer memory, and 128byte Tx buffer memory for faster soother data flow.
*All Windows, Linux, Unix, and Mac operating systems are supported.
USB.
*$80.00
*Plug and play
*Includes all components, and SSM adapter plug. (usb cable included)
*Built in status led for RX, and TX visual signal monitoring.
*No special port configurations, or drivers are needed. Computer sees it as a true com port .
*256byte RX buffer memory, and 128byte Tx buffer memory for faster soother data flow.
*All Windows, Linux, Unix, and Mac operating systems are supported.
Prices include standard Priority shipping within the US.
Any questions, please post here so all member may view them.
Thanks
Mike.
You mention something abut the product capability with the 92 models
sharondror
01-24-2008, 04:49 PM
Mention something abut the product capability with the 92 models
petrix
07-15-2008, 12:22 PM
Hello there, I want one usb version, were do I sign up? payment? paypal?
Best regards Peter Bodor
SomethingElse
07-15-2008, 03:21 PM
You do not want to send him any payment. Mike has been MIA for over 7 months.
genzzel
07-16-2008, 02:36 PM
yeah got ripped off delux by this guy---paid and nothing. Finally got back 9 dollars through PayPal---big deal. Is there anyone out there that could make of sell me a cable???????????
Hocrest
07-16-2008, 05:21 PM
yeah got ripped off delux by this guy---paid and nothing. Finally got back 9 dollars through PayPal---big deal. Is there anyone out there that could make of sell me a cable???????????
ditto, but I didn't get anything back :(
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