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mbtoloczko
10-02-2007, 10:08 PM
I know the EG33 is super smooth, but I had always figured that if I really wanted to go for the big power in an SVX, I would go with a 2.5L STi motor. And now that the late model Subaru ECU have been cracked, anyone who has a copy of ECUFlash can tune the stock ECU making a 2.5L swap even less expensive and easier. I guess no one has done this yet?

BTW, I've heard that with some basic tuning, the 2007 2.5L STi motors are cranking out 350+ ft-lbs of torque. Crazy stuff. The stock turbo still poops out at around 330 whp though.

Manarius
10-02-2007, 11:04 PM
Wiring = nightmare. That's why there aren't many swaps going.

SilverSpear
10-03-2007, 01:08 AM
But still, the SVX nose would be lighter, hence the car would be more controllable on high speeds and possible drifts ;):cool:

huck369
10-03-2007, 05:29 AM
Somebody fund me, and I'll get right on it...

Hocrest
10-03-2007, 07:12 AM
Someone in the northeast has done it. I can't recall their board name, but it has something to do with sti??

huck369
10-03-2007, 08:06 AM
Someone in the northeast has done it. I can't recall their board name, but it has something to do with sti??


I don't recall any posts about it being complete...did thry ever get it on the road?

mbtoloczko
10-03-2007, 08:38 AM
But still, the SVX nose would be lighter, hence the car would be more controllable on high speeds and possible drifts ;):cool:

Yeah, that's another good reason.

SilverSpear
10-03-2007, 09:15 AM
I dunno if the STi's DCCD gearbox can do the trick also with the EG33 by converting most of the partition to the rear wheels...

I still need to read about it..

jman050
10-03-2007, 10:56 AM
yeah id consider it if i even knew where to get started as far as the wiring goes. im going for nitrous on the eg33 first and when i want more ill go ej25 but currently its not worth the time or money to me considering i just swapped in a low mileage eg33 last year.

Nomake Wan
10-03-2007, 01:06 PM
SilverSpear: TomsSVX has the DCCD in his car... I think people will tell you it works just fine. :D

The one person I saw with a swap going was into a laguna blue... but I don't recall any posts about it being finished. They just dropped off the face of the boards. For those interested, the thread is here:

http://www.subaru-svx.net/forum/showthread.php?t=38108

jman050
10-03-2007, 01:08 PM
^^^^that wasnt the ej25 from the sti either unfortunately

Nomake Wan
10-03-2007, 01:20 PM
Well crap it's the only one I've seen and even that didn't get finished. :p

SilverSpear
10-03-2007, 02:43 PM
SilverSpear: TomsSVX has the DCCD in his car... I think people will tell you it works just fine. :D

The one person I saw with a swap going was into a laguna blue... but I don't recall any posts about it being finished. They just dropped off the face of the boards. For those interested, the thread is here:

http://www.subaru-svx.net/forum/showthread.php?t=38108


Oh really??? I still remember arguing with Tom about the possibility to plug in the 6 speed with DCCD into the SVX... he insisted that it won't work and WILL NEVER work...

I wonder how he was able to convince himself of the opposite... :lol:

TomsSVX
10-03-2007, 04:11 PM
Oh really??? I still remember arguing with Tom about the possibility to plug in the 6 speed with DCCD into the SVX... he insisted that it won't work and WILL NEVER work...

I wonder how he was able to convince himself of the opposite... :lol:

I made a custom controller for it:lol:

Tom

Mike621
10-03-2007, 04:20 PM
Hey Tom.... hows that dimmer :p:p:rolleyes::rolleyes:

TomsSVX
10-03-2007, 08:28 PM
Hey Tom.... hows that dimmer :p:p:rolleyes::rolleyes:


I have an Sti scroll knob I need to wire into it now:p

tom

sicksubie
10-03-2007, 08:41 PM
I have an Sti scroll knob I need to wire into it now:p

tom

You're welcome;)

TomsSVX
10-03-2007, 08:42 PM
You're welcome;)

thanks man

Tom

SilverSpear
10-04-2007, 12:31 AM
I made a custom controller for it:lol:

Tom


So it was doable in the end :bash: :p:p:p:p:p:p

SomethingElse
10-04-2007, 02:29 AM
Ill try it. Where can I find a wrecked STI for under 5k that still works?

LetItSnow
10-04-2007, 06:15 AM
Ill try it. Where can I find a wrecked STI for under 5k that still works?
Put your head on the pillow and close your eyes? :D

mbtoloczko
10-04-2007, 09:22 AM
Ill try it. Where can I find a wrecked STI for under 5k that still works?

Wasn't the Stage III SC $7500? Wouldn't that be the benchmark price for a complete STI 2.5L motor and ECU? In just a few minutes of looking around, I found a wide range of engine options for under $7500. Many under $5K. None of these seem to include a turbo, but if the complete engine is only $3K (FXT 2.5L motor), then there's plenty of money to buy a nice turbo and build the rest of the exhaust stuff.

http://www.gruppe-s.com/Subaru/subeng.htm

Then you'd just need to get an stock STI ECU, build a wiring harness, and do a bit of fab work. Heck, now that I think about it, if I had time and an SVX handy (don't have either lately), I'd do the swap and then make up a bunch of pre-programmed ECUs, harnesses, intercooler systems, and exhaust systems for sale.

Michael, are you reading this thread?

TomsSVX
10-04-2007, 11:39 AM
So it was doable in the end :bash: :p:p:p:p:p:p

No and I am still right. There is now way for the Subaru DCCD controller to be used in the SVX. It will be virtually inconceivable to do it. An aftermarket controller can be used in any car with a pulse

Tom

demonsvx
10-05-2007, 06:41 PM
Has anyone tried contacting these guys http://www.eastcoastswappers.com/ and they have their labor rates under the services page. It looks like they have done some nice swaps but not SVX related.

mbtoloczko
10-05-2007, 07:32 PM
Has anyone tried contacting these guys http://www.eastcoastswappers.com/ and they have their labor rates under the services page. It looks like they have done some nice swaps but not SVX related.

They look like they could get the job done.

sicksubie
10-05-2007, 08:52 PM
I think the guys who did the swap used the STi front subframe too. I wonder if this is easier than making the svx subframe work. I have been interested in this for a while but I would need a good bank account and a lot more abillity and knowledge.

demonsvx
10-05-2007, 09:28 PM
I emailed East Coast Swappers tonight and asked if this was within their capabilites(looks like they could) Dont know if I will get a response before Monday as their hours are 9-5 Mon-Fri but I will pass on the info I receive.
Damian

mbtoloczko
10-05-2007, 09:38 PM
I think the guys who did the swap used the STi front subframe too. I wonder if this is easier than making the svx subframe work. I have been interested in this for a while but I would need a good bank account and a lot more abillity and knowledge.

I don't think the STi subframe would be needed. That would mean a completely different suspension that may not have the proper geometry for the SVX strut towers. Probably more of a matter of making a set of custom motor mounts.

Speedklix
10-05-2007, 10:45 PM
That would mean a completely different suspension

I think that was one of the reasons they used the sti subframe actually.

I think it also saved them a bunch of fab work for exhaust, etc...

SilverSpear
10-06-2007, 12:12 AM
No and I am still right. There is now way for the Subaru DCCD controller to be used in the SVX. It will be virtually inconceivable to do it. An aftermarket controller can be used in any car with a pulse

Tom

No you are not. I said a DCCD Gearbox not the early ones (2002-2003)... and NOT a DCCD controller :p:p

Evil One
10-06-2007, 04:54 AM
Holy cow... East Coast Swappers is 2.57 miles from where I work!!!


Jim

demonsvx
10-06-2007, 11:37 AM
Here is their response they sent
Damian,
From what i remember about the SVX, it should be a bolt up swap.
Meaning,
the STi motor should bolt to the SVX Trans, and if you wanted to put an
entire STi drive train in the car, the sub frames should match up the
SVX
body w/ out any modification. The Wiring as you mentioned would be the
tricky part, however, thats one of our specialties, and im sure we
could
figure it out.
-Paul
Paul Scott Jr.
ECS Performance
20 Warehouse St.
Springfield MA, 01118-1058
Phone: (413)-214-6145
Fax: (413)-214-6536
www.eastcoastswappers.com

mbtoloczko
10-24-2007, 09:05 AM
Holy cow... East Coast Swappers is 2.57 miles from where I work!!!


Jim

Did you stop by their shop?

svxpert
10-26-2007, 07:46 PM
the wiring harness ALONE is going to cost me $1000 to be fabricated for this swap.

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