Sad Anniversaries-Katrina and 9-11

[demonsvx]

We are at the 1 year and 5 year anniversaries of tragic events in America. The tragedy lies within our government failings of these events. Let us remember the people who lost their lives and homes and REBUILD the WTC and New Orleans.

[Electrophil]

Agreed.

May these types of catastrophies be either prevented or handled properly in the future, and my condolences to all who were affected.

[lhopp77]

We are at the 1 year and 5 year anniversaries of tragic events in America. The tragedy lies with the failings of governments at all levels of these events. Let us remember the people who lost their lives and homes and REBUILD the WTC and New Orleans.

Fixed your post. Let's not use the memory of these tragic events to espouse a political agenda.

Lee

[demonsvx]

Fixed your post. Let's not use the memory of these tragic events to espouse a political agenda.

Lee

Thanks for the fix:) It is sad that people lost their lives,homes,jobs, etc due to many factors.

[Electrophil]

Better yet, lets never allow Nazi tactics of shame and false patriotism/bravado sway us from making our country better.

The 9/11 attacks could have been avoided, and the tragedy of Katrina lessened with good leadership in our country.

It's a shame if someone is killed by a drunk driver. But their death does not lessen the need to punish the negligent parties.

[lhopp77]

The 9/11 attacks could have been avoided, and the tragedy of Katrina lessened with good leadership in our country.



Not so sure 9/11 could have been avoided, but it would have helped if we had not had the wall between FBI and CIA and were not still treating terrorism as a crime instead of the broader problem.

And yes--Katrina/Rita governments have done things differently. Texas and Mississippi have moved money from the Feds to the people while Louisiana is still screwed up. The difference is LA wants the money to go through banks creating more delays and redtape while TX and MS allowed the direct link from government to individuals. Big differences at the level that makes the decisions.

Lee

[shotgunslade]

Great Rumsfeld story. Seems Rummy is a Princeton University alumnus, Class of '55 or '56, as am I, class of '70. Story has it among us alums that Rummy had a pretty decent win-loss record as an undergraduate wrestler. However, almost all of his wins occured with a pin in the first couple of minutes of the match, because he had a special move that would catch his opponents off their guard. If they survived that move, however, they often went on to win, and if they ever came up against him again, they would be on the watch for this move and more often than not would be successful against him.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

[lhopp77]

Another example of lousy decisions on the part of the first line government officials---Nagin to be specific. After Katrina a Houston Texas wrecking company offered to pay $100 per abandoned vehicle and to haul them off at an estimated $9M INCOME for the city of New Orleans. Nagin declined. NOW----New Orleans is having to PAY to have them removed for a total cost to NO of over $20M----just an another example of his incompetence already exhibited before and during Katrina.:rolleyes:

Lee

[SilverSpear]

All people throughout the world hate any concept related to terrorism. 9/11 is not acceptable at all and you all seem to forget that when the world saw 9/11 we all thought that if the US cannot protect itself from such acts, how can we?

We had our share of terrorim in Lebanon, beginning February 2004 till beginning 2005. Each 3 weeks to one month we had an assasination of a reputed member in Lebanon, either a current politician, former politician, or a TV member. We lived in great fear 24/7, not knowing when a bomb will just explode and take you with it...

Terrorism is the mother of all fears, we ALL have to fight it in order to live in peace and harmony.

Again my condolences on the memory of 9/11

[shotgunslade]

President wants Senate to hurry with new anti-terrorism laws
July 30, 1996
Web posted at: 8:40 p.m. EDT
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Clinton urged Congress Tuesday to act swiftly in developing anti-terrorism legislation before its August recess. "We need to keep this country together right now. We need to focus on this terrorism issue," Clinton said during a White House news conference.
But while the president pushed for quick legislation, Republican lawmakers hardened their stance against some of the proposed anti-terrorism measures.
Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott, R-Mississippi, doubted that the Senate would rush to action before they recess this weekend. The Senate needs to study all the options, he said, and trying to get it done in the next three days would be tough.
One key GOP senator was more critical, calling a proposed study of chemical markers in explosives "a phony issue."
Taggants value disputed
Clinton said he knew there was Republican opposition to his proposal on explosive taggants, but it should not be allowed to block the provisions on which both parties agree.
"What I urge them to do is to be explicit about their disagreement, but don't let it overcome the areas of agreement," he said.
The president emphasized coming to terms on specific areas of disagreement would help move the legislation along. The president stressed it's important to get the legislation out before the weekend's recess, especially following the bombing of Centennial Olympic Park and the crash of TWA Flight 800.
"The most important thing right now is that they get the best, strongest bill they can out -- that they give us as much help as they can," he said.
Hatch blasts 'phony' issues
Republican leaders earlier met with White House Chief of Staff Leon Panetta for about an hour in response to the president's call for "the very best ideas" for fighting terrorism.
Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, emerged from the meeting and said, "These are very controversial provisions that the White House wants. Some they're not going to get."
Hatch called Clinton's proposed study of taggants -- chemical markers in explosives that could help track terrorists -- "a phony issue."
"If they want to, they can study the thing" already, Hatch asserted. He also said he had some problems with the president's proposals to expand wiretapping.
Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle, D-South Dakota, said it is a mistake if Congress leaves town without addressing anti-terrorism legislation. Daschle is expected to hold a special meeting on the matter Wednesday with Congressional leaders.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.


'nuff said

[demonsvx]

I cant help but get angry or upset about the two events. Our government failed at both times and pass legislation, laws, etc. and bark orders out to the American people about what they can and cannot do. America is a DECIDEDLY different country because of 9-11 and Katrina. Pray for the families of 9-11,Katrina, Iraq, Afghanistan and others abroad.