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TomsSVX
04-19-2006, 05:24 PM
5/6 Speed Conversions for Subaru SVX using custom parts available from TomsSVX
4/19/06

Parts list for 5/6mt swap

__ 5/6mt assembly
__ 5/6mt shift linkage(be sure to get all the pieces)
__ 5/6mt starter(both are the same at least for wrx5mt and sti6mt)
__ Helicoil kit for starter stud(late model transmissions)
__ 5/6mt slave cylinder(hydro only)
__ 5/6mt Master cylinder(hydro only)
__ Hydro clutch line (both hard line and soft line)
__ Neutral Safety Switch(for pedal box)
__ Brake/Clutch Pedal assembly
__ Clutch Kit(disk, pressure plate, throwout bearing, pilot bearing)
__ Flywheel (transmission specific)
__ Flywheel bolts(longer than flex plate bolts)
__ Pressure plate bolts
__ Transmission mount
__ Rear shift linkage mount(stock or homemade)
__ Matching rear differential(n/a for wrx transmissions)
*If using the 3.90 R180 be sure to obtain a set of rear axles as well
__ 2" extended driveshaft(for all 5mt transmissions)(95-99 Legacy 5mt shafts are known to work with minor modification)
*N/A if using 6mt
__ 5/6 quarts of gear oil
__ 4 quarts of brake fluid(bleeding brakes and clutch)


1. Disconnect Negative (-) Battery terminal.
2. Drain transmission oil and front differential oil
3. Remove Intake Snorkel
4. Remove throttle body (You can disconnect cables or simply move it out of the way)
http://www.subaru-svx.net/photos/files/TomsSVX/33063.JPG
5. Pop off TC bolt cover (small black plastic cover on pass side rear of engine)
6. Remove TC bolts
- Using a large ratchet with (24mm or 7/8” socket) turn the crank pulley until TC bolts are visible.
- Remove all 4 bolts by holding larger ratchet/breaker bar on crank pulley while loosening TC bolts.

7. Remove starter

8. Remove exhaust system

9. Remove front axles from transmission
- Remove roll pin from axles at the joint to transmission
- Remove lower ball joint bolt from bottom of hub
- Pull lower control arm down away from hub
- Pull hub assembly away from car while pulling axle from the transmission

10. Disconnect 2 transmission cooler lines (on driver’s side)

11. Disconnect 2 large electrical connectors on the top of transmission

12. Disconnect shift cable from lever (pass. side of transmission)

13. Remove drive shaft
- Remove 4 bolts on the rear differential flange
- Remove 2 carrier bearing bolts
- Slide shaft out of rear of transmission

14. Place transmission jack under trans and lightly support it’s weight.

15. Remove transmission X-member from body and then from transmission

16. Remove bell housing bolts

17. Support the front of the engine with a jack to be sure it doesn’t fall forward

18. Slide transmission away from engine (this is not as easy as it sounds. This may take a good deal of shaking and prying to break it loose be careful not to harm yourself doing this)

19. Remove flex plate

Hey Look!!! The trans is out!

20. Remove center console

21. Remove auto shifter assembly
http://www.subaru-svx.net/photos/files/TomsSVX/34226.JPG

22. Remove TCU

23. remove SVX brake pedal assembly

24. Remove SVX gas pedal assembly (best off disconnecting cable from throttle body and pulling it through the firewall)

25. Remove brake master cylinder

26. Remove Brake booster ( pain in the butt but it will come out)

27. Install modified/WRX brake booster

28. Pull transmission wiring harness through firewall
- Split the harness apart and feed needed connectors back into the car thought the large hole.

29. Test fit pedal box and mark where the clutch master mounting bolt hole need to be

30. Install brake/clutch pedal assembly (top mounting bolts on brake booster will not thread all the way down but be sure they are tight)

31. Reinstall brake master cylinder

32. Cut a piece of sheet plastic to make a plate to cover excess hole from tcu wiring harness behind clutch master cylinder

33. Install clutch master cylinder(may need to trim at the firwall for it to fit)
http://www.subaru-svx.net/photos/files/TomsSVX/32975.JPG

34. Install modified gas pedal

You should now have 3 pedals to brag about.
http://www.subaru-svx.net/photos/files/TomsSVX/32977.JPG

35. Use helicoil kit to tap a proper sized hole for the starter stud to be removed from the auto and installed into the manual

36. If transmission did not come with electronic speed sensor, swap out the one from the auto.

37. Install flywheel and clutch (you remembered to have the flywheel cut right?? And I am sure you also remembered to buy flywheel bolts)

38. Install 5/6mt (Mostly the same as auto removal)
- If using WRX trans disregard the following
- If using a 5mt outside of a WRX trans be sure to follow instructions for swapping the SVX carrier into any 5 bolt side plate r160(found at end of my instructions)
- If using a 6mt with a R160 follow instruction mentioned above
- If using a 6mt with the Sti R180 follow instructions below
- Mark the pinion flange nut with a paint pen
- Count the amount of threads visible on top of the nut
- Remove Pinion nut
- Using a steering wheel puller or harmonic balancer puller, pull the pinion flange off of pinion shaft
- Install R160 flange onto R180 pinion
- Tighten pinion nut back to original mark and thread count
- Remove long mounting studs from R160 and install them onto the R180
- Test fit the R180, and mark where it needs to be notched to clear the exhaust hanger
- Cut the notch and be sure it clears the hanger
- Cut lower strap so that it secures the rear without interference (pic below)
- Install Rear axles into hubs
- Install R180

39. Install 2” lengthened SVX drive shaft or modified 95-99 Legacy 5mt shaft
- For 6mt’s install stock SVX drive shaft

40. If using a WRX5mt or Sti 6mt- Run the two light green wires into the cabin though the hole from the clutch master cylinder. These are to be used for the reverse lights later on. If using Legacy/imprezza transmission, use an ohmmeter to find which wires control reverse lighting by putting the car into reverse and into any forward gear. Find the pair of wires that have continuity while in reverse ONLY.

41. Install front axles and reassemble lower ball joints

42. Install lengthened shift linkage
- You must make your own rear mount for the linkage. Pictured below is a good example of possible methods
http://www.subaru-svx.net/photos/files/TomsSVX/35424.jpg

43. Attach rubber boot to body in order to keep road noise to a minimum.
http://www.subaru-svx.net/photos/files/TomsSVX/34477.JPG

44. Install Custom X-member (may require some grinding to open up bolt holes for proper alignment)
http://www.subaru-svx.net/photos/files/TomsSVX/34340.JPG

45. Connect clutch lines

46. Bleed brakes

47. Bleed clutch

48. Install starter

49. Lengthen speed sensor wiring using heat shrink butt connectors and 3 lengths of wire.
- for 5mt transmissions only

50. Reinstall exhaust system.

51. Reinstall throttle body and accelerator cable

52. Splice 2 reverse light wires from trans to…. 2 wires in line with the neutral wires

53. Place 2 female connectors on the ends of 2 lengths of wire. Plug them into the upper neutral safety switch on the brake/clutch pedal assembly. Route the wires over to the auto wiring harness where they will be spliced into the Blue/White and Black/Yellow wires (right next to each other) This will allow for you to start the car when the clutch pedal is depressed.

54. tuck the auto wiring harness out of the way and be sure it will not fall down

55. Reconnect the negative battery terminal

56. Fill trans and rear with preferred gear oil

57. Start her up and be sure the clutch has full engagement and make adjustments where necessary. Be sure the shifter shifts smoothly into all gears .

Well that’s about it. Good luck and always remember that www.Subaru-svx.net is an excellent resource so if you run into and problems, the people on this forum will be more than helpful in assisting you.

Tom Johnson

svxfile's rear diff swap writeup for 3.90, 4.11 and 4.44 applications

If you get a limited slip rear differential that has both the correct ratio, and five bolts on each side holding the side plates on, go ahead and install it.
This however has not happened to anyone I have heard of.

If you get an “open” rear differential, with no limited slip, then you have to convert your new open differential to a limited slip for two reasons. The first is so that your svx axles fit, and the second is so that your power doesn’t go up in wheel spin.

What I do is to use the replacement rear end housing, so that I would not have to mess with the pinion gear, or it’s preload.
Use the ring gear from the new rear end, but use the side plates, and carrier from the svx. You will have to do a little grinding on the left side of the housing opening, where the two humps are, so that the ring gear from the new rear end, and now mounted on the SVX carrier will clear.
You MUST use the longer bolts from the limited slip SVX rear end to mount the 4.44/4.11 ring gear to the LSD carrier.
I use the shims from the SVX housing but you have to check the backlash, and pattern before you install them into the car.
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TomsSVX
04-19-2006, 05:28 PM
thats all I got in the line of pictures for now. There are plenty more in my locker, just look around a little

Tom

gest24
04-19-2006, 05:33 PM
Great write up Tom! I'm still going to have you do mine... lol:D

Earthworm
04-19-2006, 05:34 PM
Nice writeup, want to submit to the SVXipedia as well?

TomsSVX
04-19-2006, 05:36 PM
well I gave you the revisions from Huck's and they never were able to get posted, so I just said screw it and wrote a whole new one. Pictures are still limited cuz I never took step by step pics. If you would like to list this on SVXipedia feel free but I do not know how to include pictures and whatnot in there

Tom

Earthworm
04-19-2006, 05:47 PM
As long as you attach the pictures I will take care of the formatting.

SVX10
04-19-2006, 06:20 PM
Great work, Tom. Thanks. I'll probably be asking some clarification questions in a few weeks :D Can't wait!

Phast SVX
04-19-2006, 08:28 PM
Nice Tom, Welcome to the "Ya im that bored so im going to type up a rediculously long but accurate how-to" club! :)

It's Just Eric
04-19-2006, 11:20 PM
Been there, done that...except nobody read mine

Nemesis Destiny
04-20-2006, 06:47 PM
Does the cruise control still work the way you have the NSS wired up?

TomsSVX
04-20-2006, 07:22 PM
yes

Tom

Nemesis Destiny
04-20-2006, 08:05 PM
sweet. Thanks for posting this. And thanks on behalf of all SVX transmission swappers for all your efforts.

Earthworm
04-21-2006, 10:33 AM
Does the cruise control still work the way you have the NSS wired up?My cruise will not work with the neutral pin grounded. That's why I added a switch to unground it as needed. Otherwise the cruise always works.

TomsSVX
04-21-2006, 10:35 AM
The neutral pin is not grounded in my setup. The only time you are in neutral is when the clutch is depressed. Otherwise it is always in drive. No lights on the dash, nuthin. It will let u start the car and it will kick off cruise control, thats all

Tom

SomethingElse
05-06-2006, 07:56 AM
what kind of gear oil do you use? what weight?

ensteele
05-06-2006, 12:08 PM
I just posted it into the How-To Documents. Thanks for the write up Tom. :)

TomsSVX
05-06-2006, 09:24 PM
very cool, thanks Earl

Tom

Nemesis Destiny
05-06-2006, 10:11 PM
Not to sound like an idiot (though sometimes I am), I can't seem to find this writeup. Can one of you point me in the right direction, please?

ensteele
05-06-2006, 10:39 PM
I will post it now. I had computer problems before and could not put it in the How-To Docs. I will do it asap and try to post the link.

Nemesis Destiny
05-06-2006, 10:50 PM
Heh, no worries, at least now I know I'm not crazy or a total retard. :)

ensteele
05-08-2006, 12:27 AM
Heh, no worries, at least now I know I'm not crazy or a total retard. :)

Well, you may be that, but here is the link to the file. (http://www.subaru-svx.net/photos/files/How-To/35732.pdf) :) :)

Nemesis Destiny
05-08-2006, 04:49 PM
Awesome writeup! I know this will come in handy. Thanks.

NikFu S.
10-15-2007, 06:08 PM
/Subscribe because I'll need this as a reference very soon. :D

Anyone reading know anything about "tranny codes"? I guess so we can verify the tranny we are looking at is a WRX 5mt. My friend shipping it I guess is trying to make sure I "don't get ripped off".

TomsSVX
10-15-2007, 06:09 PM
just look at the clutch fork. If it sits on a pivot ball, its not a wrx trans, if it rides on a 1/2" shaft, then its a wrx transmission

Tom

Hondasucks
10-15-2007, 09:39 PM
Don't ALL the turbo trannies ride on a 1/2" shaft?

Good write-up, Tom... I can't wait to get mine 5MT swapped :-)

jcimos
04-08-2014, 01:25 PM
Hey guys, I know its taboo to piggy back on someone else thread, but I really need some help. If you have a Legacy 5mt complete swap and you want to go to a WRX swap, what do you need to replace in the Legacy swap? And when i said Legacy complete swap I mean including the rear 4.44 LSD rear diff.

Subachouli
04-08-2014, 08:42 PM
Hey guys, I know its taboo to piggy back on someone else thread, but I really need some help. If you have a Legacy 5mt complete swap and you want to go to a WRX swap, what do you need to replace in the Legacy swap? And when i said Legacy complete swap I mean including the rear 4.44 LSD rear diff.

Which 5MT Legacy transmission uses a 4.44 fd? US Legacys had 4.11. Is it a turbo GTB transmission from overseas?

If it's a turbo transmission than you're using a hydraulic pull clutch, which is the same set up as the 02-05 WRX transmission. 06+ went to push style slave cylinder.

If it's a US Legacy non turbo transmission, it's a push style (same as 06+ WRX). I think you'll need to change out the clutch. Definitely the slave and fork.. I think.

You'll need to match the transmission final drive to the rear end. You may need the axles from the WRX. You can reuse your pedals (assuming you're going from hydraulic to hydraulic), driveshaft should be the same, mounts are the same. Shifter should be the same but if it's different you should be able to make something work.

What else..

Dunno if this is what you're looking for. You can PM me if you have questions. And stick around, someone should chime in with more knowledge.

jcimos
04-09-2014, 12:14 AM
Thanks for replying on the thread. All i know about the setup that i have is the tranny is from a late 90's n/a Legacy and it cable driven. The drive-line has been adjusted and the internals of the rear end has a Legacy components in it. I believe its the 4.44 lsd Legacy swap. The new tranny i have is from a 03 WRX turbo model. My pedals was setup for cable. The clutch and flywheel I have in the car now is from a n/a Legacy. I just want to know what i need to do to install the WRX tranny in replacement of the Legacy. Thanks

Subachouli
04-09-2014, 10:16 AM
Thanks for replying on the thread. All i know about the setup that i have is the tranny is from a late 90's n/a Legacy and it cable driven. The drive-line has been adjusted and the internals of the rear end has a Legacy components in it. I believe its the 4.44 lsd Legacy swap. The new tranny i have is from a 03 WRX turbo model. My pedals was setup for cable. The clutch and flywheel I have in the car now is from a n/a Legacy. I just want to know what i need to do to install the WRX tranny in replacement of the Legacy. Thanks

Got your PM, but I'll keep the info in the thread so it can be looked over and used in the future.

You'll need everything but the modified transmission crossmember and the modified driveshaft. You might be able to get away with using pieces from both shifters.

The 90's Legacy transmission is a push, cable clutch style. The 03 WRX is pull, hydraulic.

So your pedal box needs to be modified to use a hydraulic clutch. You'll need the actual hydraulic components, master, slave, lines, hose and a spot on the firewall to mount everything.

You'll need a new clutch and flywheel to match the transmission.

I believe you can use the factory SVX rear diff with a 03 WRX transmission. The 90 Legacy NA transmission is either 3.90 or 4.11 FD, so the 4.44 rear diff won't work.

I'm sure I'm missing something.. anyone else?

Tireiron
04-09-2014, 01:50 PM
My big question is, you already have a 5mt that is setup correctly and working, why do you want to swap to a different 5mt? The WRX 5mt is no stronger than the legacy 5mt. You will not get a better final drive as the WRX final is 3.9 and the legacy is most likely 4.1. Also if the legacy 5mt breaks they are still easier to find in good condition than WRX ones.

So again, why exactly do you want to swap from one 5mt to another 5mt?

92 SVX
04-09-2014, 05:52 PM
My big question is, you already have a 5mt that is setup correctly and working, why do you want to swap to a different 5mt? The WRX 5mt is no stronger than the legacy 5mt. You will not get a better final drive as the WRX final is 3.9 and the legacy is most likely 4.1. Also if the legacy 5mt breaks they are still easier to find in good condition than WRX ones.

So again, why exactly do you want to swap from one 5mt to another 5mt?

This is a good question, You said yours is 4.44 gears, which would give you the best acceleration and without lots of money/time changing out the front diff to match your current 4.44 rear would be next to impossible.

TomsSVX
04-10-2014, 08:16 AM
Depending on what year the wrx box is out of, meaning if it is a push clutch, you can convert the trans to accept a cable actuator

Tom

huck369
04-10-2014, 08:20 AM
no cable activated Legacy had 4.44's, only some of the 4EAT's....there are a few 4.44 5-speeds, but only in Turbo cars, which all have hydraulic clutch set-ups....so you need to take the numbers off the sticker on your tranny next to the starter and determine what gears you're actually running....

jcimos
04-12-2014, 12:20 AM
Oh no what have i done:eek:! The reason why i am doing this is because my legacy tranny locked up on me not to long ago and my svx has been down for more then 2 weeks now. I freaked-out and went out to buy a wrx tranny thinking it would be an upgrade! I didn't know that it is actually a down grade. I believe the wrx tranny I have is a push type that has the hydraulic slave that pushes away from the firewall. So should go out and find another legacy tranny to save me the trouble:confused:?

92 SVX
04-12-2014, 04:52 AM
Oh no what have i done:eek:! The reason why i am doing this is because my legacy tranny locked up on me not to long ago and my svx has been down for more then 2 weeks now. I freaked-out and went out to buy a wrx tranny thinking it would be an upgrade! I didn't know that it is actually a down grade. I believe the wrx tranny I have is a push type that has the hydraulic slave that pushes away from the firewall. So should go out and find another legacy tranny to save me the trouble:confused:?

in a 5 speed I don't think 4.44 gears are that ideal, you have to have some very high rpms just cruising down the road. :eek:
the normal wrx is about 3.9 geared if you have a hydrolic clutch already, which it seems you do then you just need to change the gears in the rear diff to match the trans you bought. Or if the wrx is 04 it might actually use 3.54 rear gears like the stock svx diff, find one and swap it out and done.

Subachouli
04-12-2014, 07:24 AM
Oh no what have i done:eek:! The reason why i am doing this is because my legacy tranny locked up on me not to long ago and my svx has been down for more then 2 weeks now. I freaked-out and went out to buy a wrx tranny thinking it would be an upgrade! I didn't know that it is actually a down grade. I believe the wrx tranny I have is a push type that has the hydraulic slave that pushes away from the firewall. So should go out and find another legacy tranny to save me the trouble:confused:?

The WRX transmission you are using is a pull style.

Find another Legacy transmission. If you can find the ID number from yours, post it up, and I'll be able to tell you what will work.

huck369
04-14-2014, 05:16 AM
The WRX transmission you are using is a pull style.

Find another Legacy transmission. If you can find the ID number from yours, post it up, and I'll be able to tell you what will work.


Agree /\......................

jcimos
04-14-2014, 11:31 PM
Thank you guys. This sucks but its a lesson learned :(. I will pull my old one out soon and let you guys know the out come. So the new transmission, does it need to come from a Legacy or Legacy GT? Between what years also? Thanks

huck369
04-15-2014, 05:18 AM
Thank you guys. This sucks but its a lesson learned :(. I will pull my old one out soon and let you guys know the out come. So the new transmission, does it need to come from a Legacy or Legacy GT? Between what years also? Thanks

We will need to determine just what exact transmission you have first, before saying what you need to get one out of....post the numbers off the sticker by the starter on the bell housing, you can see it by just opening the hood....then we can find out what gearing it has, and recommend what to get a transmission out of

Alex-svx
12-09-2017, 05:40 PM
Hope my hydro set up will work, i have get the pedals inside now, what a pain hehe.

Nemesis Destiny
12-09-2017, 05:44 PM
Holy thread necro!

Haha, best of luck with the swap.

Did you actually find a 5 speed with 3.54 gearing in the front diff?

Alex-svx
12-10-2017, 04:59 PM
Holy thread necro!

Haha, best of luck with the swap.

Did you actually find a 5 speed with 3.54 gearing in the front diff?

Yes, the first gen turbo legacy here came whit that.
I have take out 2 tranny whit matching diff, and they both was 3.54 LSD.
Thanks, i had the 3.900 N/A tranny before.
Just the pedals that are the biggest job now.

Nemesis Destiny
12-10-2017, 08:31 PM
Do you have the transmission code so I can look up the full list of ratios? How much are they where you live?

Conn SVX
12-20-2017, 02:31 AM
V won't be a lot of punch off. The line but good gas mileage and top end. I am not sure what the WRX 2002 I have. But mine feels perfect. Think I remember 3:90

svxfiles
12-20-2017, 06:42 PM
V won't be a lot of punch off. The line but good gas mileage and top end. I am not sure what the WRX 2002 I have. But mine feels perfect. Think I remember 3:90

USD 2002 WRX should be 3.90/3.545.

Alex-svx
01-23-2018, 05:29 PM
Do you have the transmission code so I can look up the full list of ratios? How much are they where you live?

The tranny code is: TY752VN1AA
The rear diff says LSD 3.54
they are around 5000-8000nok (638$ to 1000$)

Nemesis Destiny
01-23-2018, 07:03 PM
The tranny code is: TY752VN1AA
The rear diff says LSD 3.54
they are around 5000-8000nok (638$ to 1000$)Thanks for that.

It's as I suspected - the rear uses that ratio, while the front uses 3.90 and the transfer to the rear uses a 1.1:1 reduction gear so that they end up matching.

I thought for a hopeful second that there was some magical unicorn gearbox with 3.454 front gearing as well, but alas... ;)

Alex-svx
01-25-2018, 08:12 AM
Thanks for that.

It's as I suspected - the rear uses that ratio, while the front uses 3.90 and the transfer to the rear uses a 1.1:1 reduction gear so that they end up matching.

I thought for a hopeful second that there was some magical unicorn gearbox with 3.454 front gearing as well, but alas... ;)

hehe yes it have been fine to get a unicorn gearbox (maybe 6 speed) hehe
But the highway speed is much lover then the 3.900 gearbox. :)

Now i just have to find out the R lamp wiring.